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Re: Big mistake

> From: "Karl Nordstrom" <KXN2@PSUVM.PSU.EDU>
> Subject: Re: Big mistake
> To: "Quattro mailing list" <quattro@aries.East.Sun.COM>
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> desousa@cisco.com
> >>Eliot Lim <eliot@lanmola.engr.washington.edu>
> >>I think that the cheapest way to upgrade the performance of a non
> >>turbo 100/5000 is to simply trade up to a 200/5000T.  The dirt cheap
> >>prices for the used turbo cars make most of the other options look
> >>quite silly really.  It will not be as risky as unknown aftermarket
> >>pieces that mechanics may or may not know how to fix.  $16K for a 1989
> >>200TQ?  perfect upgrade.
> >
> >Eliots advice is by far the least expensive and most reliable way to
> >achieve more HP.
> purchase 1989 200  Turbo Quattro.......$16,000
> sell     1986 4000 S     Quattro.........5,000
>                                         ------
> cost of upgrade........................$11,000
What your suggesting is a different comparison.

The cars being compared are an 87 5000S quattro to an 87 5000cs(turbo) 
quattro.  In the San Francisco bay area I've seen 87 5000cs(turbo) 
quattros from 8 to 10K which is about the same as the non-turbo version.  
I've driven both and I felt a big difference in acceleration.

> I've seen Turbo Quattro Coupes for less than that cost to upgrade.
> I guess a fairer comparison for me would be trading for a '86-'88
> 5000TQ at $9000, minus $5000 for my 4000Q, for a cost of $4000.
> I'm not even convinced that the 5000TQ is much of a performance improvement
> over the 4000 Quattro.  I've read here on the Quattro mailing list that
> someone found the performance of the 5000TQ less than the 80/90 Quattro.
> The 80/90 Quattros are out of my price range.  All '88 and later Audis
> are too expense for me!  I still have a coupe of years of payments on
> my '90 Miata to go.

The 4000's and the 80/90's are a different story.  I have a 4000 and 
have contemplated replacing the complete engine assembly with one out 
of a wrecked 5000turbo.  I agree that more HP in the smaller body style 
would be nice.
	The cost of the 88 and later Quattro's. are in a different price
range than your 86 4000s Quattro, but than if the 86's were faster they
would probably cost more too. :)

Carl DeSousa