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Re: Cracked 5 cylinder manifold

Peter Orban writes:
> I am looking at a 4000Q with a cracked/blown manifold/gasket. The dealer
> and independent places quote about C$800.00 for repair in optimal
> case (just machining the manifold, replacing the gaskets). They were
> mentioning warped manifolds and pulled studs at cylinder 5. I can
> see things getting expensive if the head needs to be pulled and/or replaced.
> What is the experience, what do they do for repair, how long repairs last,
> how much it does it cost, and when showed up first the problem. The
> car I am looking at has 120kmiles.

Hello Peter,
What year was this 4000Q?  I'm not really sure how many years the 5cyl
broke the lower #5 exh. man. stud.  I've seen this problem on both early 
80's 4000 and 5000 i've owned.  I've also heard many 5 cyl driving down 
the road with this problem.  I'll assume your 4000Q has a similar cast
iron ex. manifold.  When I recently rebuilt the head on my 4000 I had to 
extract the broken exhaust bolt, using ez-outs. If there's some stud
left here one may be able to use vise grips and a lot of penetrating
oil, and not have to remove the head,  otherwise????  I also did not use 
a hardened replacement stud for fear of someday having to drill out
the same bolt, except now almost too hard to drill into .  There was some 
concern about the ex manifold being warped and was considering getting
it planned for $30 but this was just too much over what I had planned to
pay for machine work.   I used the ex. manifold, as is.  No problems with
exhaust leaks now at 1500 miles after rebuild.    

I'm not sure what Cnd$800 is in U.S. but seems a little high for just 
pulling the in/ex. manifolds and doing a little machine work (no replacement).

-pete gotseff-