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me thinks Cons here

In a message dated 96-01-05 18:34:09 EST, you write:

>100-115 MPH in Twin Cities (we're on the COPs' most wanted list here), 
>but that speed is only maintained for 5-6 min max before his 
>scanner-detector sees a patrol vehicle around. He is a huge expert at 
>cars both here and in Japan both selling them and testing them, and the 
>only Japanese cars that can compete with Germans are the varients sold 
>only in Japan. But even then, cops there uses 959s and 911s.

You need to hang on this net quietly for a while here before you post......
 A 959?  You may want to recheck that......

>io box. The 190HP eingine is the older variation of the engine used on 
todays Prelude VTEC. Very nice piece of machinery, but he still prefers 
the accuracy of my '86 CSTQ steering and suspension response. 
Oh by the way, my '86 is the German version with electronic suspension 
and a different Turbocharger. >

Say what?  I'll not bother with your honda facts but....    Explain to a
simple minded turbo guy exactly WHAT difference your turbo has with the US
version, did it come differently on the "german vs the US" versions of said
auto......   And throw in the definition of an Electronic suspension if you
get thru the first task........   And if the accuracy of the steering is so
good, there must be a LOT in that electronic suspension.........

So I hope that sheds some light on why I say things that I do.


And with that statement, I would hope that you take some time to browse the
Archives, ck majordomo for instructions......  I think the light you shed may
be shadowed some......

how many times have you driven on the autobahn or carved the road along 
the shoreline of Cicillia? If you have, you'll know what I mean! How many 
Supras, VR4s, or even Accord, or Civics have you seen? Not many at all. 
Maybe five in a day all in the right lane. Why? Because all of them can 
not sustain long time at full throttle
I think you might want to check out maybe a few of the more recent SCCA,
Firehawk and Showroom Stock Series before you argue that point any less

> I was puzzled too first > (.....  that's past tense)
after I asked some mechanics down there, they say that most often problem 
is that Japanese cars overheat after 1-2 hours of full throttle run. 
Where as 540i driven by my dad easily went over 160 MPH (the German 

And again I will ask you what SPECIFICALLY the "german version" of the 540
has that we airheads missed here in the states.......  Again, you need to do
more homework on your cars Alex.....

>>>>]Version). How is that for Japanese performance. Surely you can clock the

car running around the track for about 10-15 minutes, so what? In real 
life they are just not up to Germans in terms of extreme situation 
performance. A friend of mine from Japan runs his AWD 190 HP Accord EX-R 
about >>>>>

You must be kidding, or just a plant.........  With the @edu tail, I take
this post for what I think it is....  Stick around if you like, this list
ain't like any other one you've been on in the past......  Hope it's a
learning experience for you.......   Posts like this are for the C&D
forum......  And even then, you might find yourself above your head selling
some of this..........  Please take the time to paruse the archives before
you get into your posts too deeply......  And maybe take this as the lightest
of the flames you might encurr....  Hope majordomo is kind to your cries for