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Re: 10vt header
In a message dated 96-04-04 12:14:17 EST, you write:
> Hmmmm. This talk about a cheap header for the 10v turbo sounds
>interesting. Now I'm not saying this guy can't do what he says he can
>[in fact I hope he CAN & DOES] however, when talking about "cheap
>headers" I think caution is advised. Now, I'll admit to knowing
>absolutely zero about construction of a header for an Audi, BUT, having
>raced some killer Mopars years ago I can tell you that I paid something
>like $1k for a stainless header to put on a way built 340-6 some 15 years
>ago. Granted, technology has probably changed, but there is A LOT repeat
>A F'in BUNCH more to designing the "right" header than merely knowing how
>to weld, bend, shape, etc. Frankly, while I don't see the street
>application [for me at least], read here "need" for the $2,200 German
>product referenced in the earlier posts, I was not surprised at all by
>the cost---if it does everything that a stainless 5 to 1 header should do.
> Turbulence, or the lack thereof, is the key. Can be called many
>things, but turbulence is one of the important things to eliminate in
>designing a high performance header system. IT AIN'T easy to do, right.
> No engineer talking here, but I travelled down many a dirt road
>looking for REAL exhaust gains. I was [and am] convinced that the money
>it takes to design and manufacture [and, that is what you are buying with
>any performance upgrade] really potent exhausts does not translate into
>cheap cost to the end user. Also, it was never the "first" money we
>spent when we went looking for significant hp gains. That said, IF this
>guy can create a manifold to cat system that has a real life and shows
>significant gains over that life, I'll buy 2.
> Just my opinion--probably 50 guys on this list that know more
>than I do about this subject.
As one of the "new" 50, I would say a single word suffices here = "ditto"....
And very well put too.... I am fresh off a 2 week education quest on the
exhaust systems in general and specifically of our tq's and without nerding
you all over it, the above post sums up the information I have gathered to
date and to a T. Turbos makes designing exhaust manifolds exponentially
more critical, the compactness of the q turbo manifold itself puts the
importance into mindboggling ICU's...... That 2 piece manifold is looking
really inexpensive to me.... NJT