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re: Selling '91 200Q/Long whine
>Just noticed your signature - finally got tired of the maintenance?
>On that note, how much did the 60K service come to at BMS? Did they do a
>Why are you getting rid of it? Too many problems or budget or what?
>91 200 Q
> I'm almost afraid to ask, Eric, but why are you selling it
> off? Trouble, or other considerations?
> '91 200Q (44K)
> '85 5KT (125K)
A lot of people have asked, from prospective buyers to
concerned fellow 200Q-ers. I thought I'd use the shotgun
approach and just unload on everybody.
WHY AM I SELLING ONE OF THE COOLEST CARS?
In a word, stuff breaking. OK, so that's two words; I'm a heavy
I had started to have my doubts when by June the Quattro
had been to Bellevue Motor Sports about 4 times in 6 months for
little annoying things. First I think one of the window switches
started getting intermittent. Then the transmission started leaking,
then another window switch died, then the driver's door lock
So I was starting to consider the 190hp '92-'93 Maxima 5-speed,
a '94 Acura Integra GS-R 4-door, a Subaru Legacy Sport Sedan
or something like that. Here is where I think I really pissed off the
Audi Gods bad... especially the Subaru, I bet.
Well, the same day I had these impure thoughts I started prepping
the car for a trip to Mt. St. Helens. The last 35-40 miles were
supposed to be on gravel, so I thought the Q would really shine.
Well, it was the power steering fluid that was shining on the
ground. That was probably it, right then and there for me. I had
to take the 626 and it managed just fine, but I was pissed.
I just don't have the time. I don't have the time to do most of
the stuff myself. I don't have the time to have the thing in the
shop monthly. Not a bad car, but a bad car for me. Too much
time in Japanese cars where I got used to them working, and
working well all the time. Either that or the Audi Gods were
too angry that I would make the jump from Mazda Protege to
'91 Audi 200 Quattro without having done time in a diesel Rabbit
or something. Bad hubris to presume too much.
Heck of a salesman, aren't I? But, we all know the list of stuff
that goes wrong, on this list.
To answer your question, Peter, the cost of the 60K & timing
belt part of the service was $656.96. Pretty reasonable I thought
compared to what I've been hearing about lately for 60K service.
This included the 60K, timing belt, 3 other belts, 5 F5DPOR plugs
(@ $18/ea, instead of the earlier quoted $25), air filter, timing belt
tensioner, cap, and rotor. However, they didn't feel that the water
pump or Oxygen sensor needed replacing, though I suggested it
without insisting. This also included a little more labor for taking
the bumper off to do the timing belt.
Parts prices for the big things were as follows:
timing belt: $51.05
Actually the total cost of the whole thing was $1750, because I
had the leaky power steering pump, a broken headlight and the
failing horn replaced. Also two of the remaining window switches
in the driver's door. Their two stablemates had died within a month
of each other so I just decided to dump them, too. Should have
asked for the parts I guess.
They aren't as reasonable as Linda on the big parts:
power steering pump: $297 Linda, $399 BMS
headlight: $171 Linda, $220 BMS
Oh, get the Hella horn. I haven't seen you since it was installed,
but you've probably heard my car when I'm on the I-90 bridge and
you're in Redmond. Maybe some of the list members in Portland
can hear it, come to think of it.
-Eric Harman (email@example.com)
whining in Seattle
'91 200 Quattro (for sale)
'90 Mazda 626 Touring Sedan GT