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> Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 22:34:32 -0400 (EDT) > From: owner-quattro-digest@coimbra.ans.net > To: quattro-digest@coimbra.ans.net > Subject: quattro-digest V3 #951 > Reply-to: quattro@coimbra.ans.net > > quattro-digest Tuesday, 27 August 1996 Volume 03 : Number 951 > > * > * Welcome to the digest version of the quattro list. > * See the end of the digest for unsubscribe info. > * In this issue: > Using Non Premium Gas > Re: Tire pressure > 5000CDQuattro Clutch sticking > 874KQ for sale (NY) > Ozo Bushings > Re: 4000 Turbo Q > RE: G-tech Pro performance meter > Re: a couple of questions > sample decal > Re: Q-list Identification > Re: identify vs. stealth > Re:identify vs. stealth > Re: Q-list Identification > Goodbye speeding ticket... (fwd) > Re: Audi Master Technician (fwd) > Sunroof and Wiper Pump Questions > Mike Loeks & John Lewis phone home... > Add Suggested Service Intervals to Archives? > S6 vs. Volvo 850 Turbo R (was Re: ipd) > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From: Byas U Nambisan <Byas_U_Nambisan@ccm.fm.intel.com> > Date: Tue, 27 Aug 96 16:11:00 PDT > Subject: Using Non Premium Gas > > Jerry, > I've used both 87 and 89 Octane in my A4. I've tended to use the lower > Octane gas(es?) while doing mainly city or suburban driving. I have not > noticed any difference in performance under these conditions. However, > I usually switch to 92 for highway driving. The few times that I did use > 89 for highway driving, I did log higher gas consumption (mileage > decreased by about ~1mpg - don't know if the difference is statistically > significant). > > I would recommend that you use 92 when engaging in some spirited > driving, and 87/89 while engaging in more sedentary driving. > > Byas > > ------------------------------ > > From: STEADIRIC@aol.com > Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 19:26:39 -0400 > Subject: Re: Tire pressure > > > 2 Run my D60's at 35. Slight variations in pressure are easily > >felt. I *think* Eric runs a tad? more pressure in the black beast. what > >say you steadi? > > 38 front 36 rear says me. Suspension kitted of course and in the > everpopular 215/60-15 on 7.5" rims > > Later! > > > Eric Fletcher > '87 5KCSTQIA2RSR2B > St. Louis, MO > > STEADIRIC@aol.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > From: "Colin Barfoot" <Colin_Barfoot@msn.com> > Date: Wed, 28 Aug 96 00:17:58 UT > Subject: 5000CDQuattro Clutch sticking > > Has any one had the problem where the clutch seems to stick intermittently. > First indication was the pedal stuck on the floor - had to lift it with the > toe (it worked ok after that for that day). Next it was found stuck to the > floor again, then this morning the clutch wouldn't disengage enough to let my > wife get the car in gear (another rule collary of course these failures always > happen when the spouse has the car and you are not home to see it). A quick > check tonight shows the peddle not stuck and the clutch disengages, engages > fine?? The hydraulic fluid resevoir seems to be a bit higher than normal (top > of full) but there are no drips on the garage floor etc. > Can anyone give me a response this evening (so I can get it fixed tommorrow) > on what this problem is and how to fix it ( or what part is about to fail > permanently). It seems I may have had this problem a couple of years ago but > I forget if there was any resolution then. > TIA > Colin > 86 5000CD Quattro > New Brunswick, Canada > 287,000 km > still looking for new rear shocks (can afford stediric package this year) > still waiting for the supply of new wastegate springs or pnematic boost control > > ------------------------------ > > From: esw5@cornell.edu (Ernest Wong) > Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 20:02:05 -0500 > Subject: 874KQ for sale (NY) > > No affiliation with seller. Found it on the local Usenet forsale group. > > - --------------------------------------------------------------- > I am posting it for a friend: > There is a 1987 Audi 4000cs quatro 4-door sedan, silver grey > color, and almost no rust. it has news muffler and fan. it is > all power. and power sunroff also. it is about 100,600 miles. > the wholesale price for the car is 3100$, we ask 2700$, > because the owner will move to another state. if interested, > please call 272-0789.for Mr zhong or zhou. or email to > cz16@cornell.edu > > > Someone already responded expressing interest. So she might be already gone. > > Happy shopping. > > Cornell is in Ithaca, NY. Midstate NY. About hour North of Pennsylvania border. > > > > ------------------------------ > > From: mike tipton <mtipton@netten.net> > Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 18:54:21 -0500 > Subject: Ozo Bushings > > The "new style" bushings, have a special rubber compound in them, to > deter aging from the elements. I have had a set on my Coupe GT for two > years now, and their still tight. > While I was rebuilding the motor last summer I had the lower sub frame > removed and it sat in the summer sun for a month. The bushings > showed no ill effects, or toughning.(New style bushings) > On my 90, I needed to replace the drive wheel side(RH) bushings. > So I decided to do all four. My method of removal involves drilling > around the bushing to remove the attaching rubber, removing the inner > bushing(core) and using an air hammer to remove the outer steel > shell. > While drilling the rubber, I noticed its quite tough, even to the drill. > Especially compared to the rubber of a tire(I drilled thru a old bad > spare I had) of the same age. The rubber in the bushings also has a much > different "smell" (while drilling) than the tire. > What ever they put in those bushings(New Style) seems to work well. > I think carbon is an important ingred. in rubbers toughness. > > M > > > ------------------------------ > > From: Trisha Bethen <trishab@mv.mv.com> > Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 21:05:14 -0400 (EDT) > Subject: Re: 4000 Turbo Q > > Did you get his name? Is he running SCCA? I'd be curious to know.... > > On 27 Aug 1996, Neil Swanson wrote: > > > Went again, > > > > I went to LRP again today. Open test day always brings out the neat stuff. At > > the Q event I had heard that the one and only Ferrari CanAm car would be there. > > > > It wasn't but the 250 GTO was a nice treat. And that guy really drove it. No > > trailer queen that. > > > > There were F5000s and one CanAm car. > > > > What you want to hear about is the 4000 Q turbo. Had a Q Coupe engine etc in > > it. Full cage and race seats. Meaty tires etc. The car was silent. Made no > > sound. It had a 2.5"er with one Borla. He ran coil overs all around and had > > removed the front sway bar to get the thing to turn. It did turn. Took a nice > > set from what I could see through the esses. His best time till I left was a > > 1:04.8 I think. If I remember right the Super Touring cars were running similar > > times. > > > > He was a club member but dropped out. IF he had known about the Q Club being > > there he would have shown up. > > > > Neil > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > From: ptimmerm@mashtun.JPL.NASA.GOV > Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 18:16:40 -0700 > Subject: RE: G-tech Pro performance meter > > I have one for testing out my engine mod's. > It also works for testing brakes, tires and suspension. > Bassically it is an accelerometer with an integrator function. > You can do 0-60, 1/4 mile, 60-0, lateral acceleration, both > as instantaneous and sustained. The feature I bought it > for was horsepower measurement. Fo that you need to enter > in the car weight. It developes errors due to air resistance > with speed, and requires starting from speed = 0. This is > something of a problem, cause my peaky old motor doesnt start > really huff'n good in those lower gears. In the higher gears, > there is the wind. Still useful, especially for relative testing. > But HP figures are not perfectly simple. It beats using a > stopwatch and wathcing traffic and shifting during testing. > It will hold you result for you. You still need a good test > track that is flat. Hills effect the measurement. It's not > like it magiacally calculated HP anytime anywhere. The errors > in the integration function build, so reest and repeat is the > methodology. Hope that helps out the curoius. > > paul timmerman > > > ------------------------------ > > From: Chris Lemon <br00206@binghamton.edu> > Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 21:14:23 -0400 (EDT) > Subject: Re: a couple of questions > > On Tue, 27 Aug 1996 17:44:46 -0400 (EDT) Mehul Dholakia wrote: > > >Where do u clean the brake dust off ? is it the wheel caps or the wheels > >themselves ? if it is the wheel caps, does it affect the performance of > >the car besides making it look slightly unclean ? and if it is the wheels, > > Clean it off the wheels. Spray Quicksilver on then hose it off. Takes > brake dust right off the wheel. Will also take paint with it if not used > carefully... > > >I have an 88 90Q - 5 spd. When I put the car into second gear, the stick > >shift vibrates visibly. Sometimes, though rarely, this does not happen > >and the stick seems fine. > > Mine does the same: a SLIGHT vibration in second. If it is SLIGHT, just > ignore it. If more than that there might be a problem elsewhere... > > >is it usual for the trip computer switch to get hot ? > > YES. Don't know what to tell you on this one... > > >the fan seems to work strangely. In the supposedly OFF position, I can > >still feel a draft of air(Is this usual ?) Also when I turn the switch > >thru positions 1-3, I can notice no change in the behavior of the fan, > >i.e. I can still feel the same draft as in the OFF position. And then > >in position 4(the last position), > > You need a new resistor pack for the fan motor, or the contacts inside the > speed switch are dirty. Also, the fan will default to low speed, even if > the switch is "off", when the "A/C" button is pressed. > > >finally, how good is amsoil's claim of 6month/25,000 mile no-change on > >their synthetic oil and filter ? I do remember someone mentioning that > >their oil filters are way superior, > > IMHO, You'd be crazy to leave the same oil in the sump for 25k miles, even > if it is synthetic. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+OOOO > Chris Lemon > Ph.D. student/Audi head > br00206@binghamton.edu > Binghamton, NY, USA > - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-OOOO > > > ------------------------------ > > From: Lee Levitt <wheelman@shore.net> > Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 21:15:26 -0400 (EDT) > Subject: sample decal > > Okay, I put together a sample decal and posted it on a web page. Check it > out at: > > http://www.magicpub.com/quattro.html > > Let me know what you think... > > Lee Levitt > wheelman@shore.net > > > > ------------------------------ > > From: shields@tembel.org (Michael Shields) > Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 01:51:26 +0000 (GMT) > Subject: Re: Q-list Identification > > > BTW, we decided *not* to put a complete internet address on the decal, > > mostly to keep people from sending useless mail, but also for space > > reasons. > > > > Here's a coupla possibilities: > > > > quattro@coimbra > > quattro@internet > > q-list@internet > > I would definitely vote for quattro@coimbra -- "@internet" is just too > cliche, especially with the at-sign. > > I'd also like to keep it small and subtle. Audis are not Camaros; > understatement is very important. Those in the know can look in the > upper left rear window, or wherever the standard location is, and easily > see whether a coimbra sticker is there or not. That's all you need; > we're not recruiting and don't need it to stand out. > - -- > Shields. ['86 Coupe GT, debadged, depinstriped.] > > ------------------------------ > > From: Alex Kowalski <akowalsk@shrike.depaul.edu> > Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 20:51:01 -0700 > Subject: Re: identify vs. stealth > > Steven Buchholz wrote: > > > > > > > > Kevlar time: > > > Don't mean to be rude, dude, but if it's subtle it misses the point. We are > > > trying to identify each other. This is the opposite of stealth. I think > > > this contradiction is going to sink this whole idea. half of us want to be > > > able to identify each other at a glance, the other half don't want anything > > > visible/uncool on their car - the whole exercise becomes pointless. How can > > > I be cool and stealthy (with a Lee dump sticker on my window) when I've got > > > a sticker that can be seen from the opposite lane anywhere on my car? > > > > > It is my understanding that I'll probably be getting a UK urq club reflec- > > tive strip for the windshield of my car when I become a member of that club. > > Such reflective strips are fairly apparent to oncoming traffic (and in the > > mirrors) ... perhaps we can come up with a q-list logo in a quattro styled > > font ... > > > > > > Why not a fuel additive that not only increases boost by 0.2 bar but turns > > > our exhaust products an attractive shade of ochre. _NOW_ we can identify > > > each other! > > > > I like this idea ... especially if it is guarateed not to cause additional > > "ozone depleting, greenhouse promoting" gasses *YET* causes them photo-smog > > revenue generation trailers to puke. Any thoughts Dr. Myers? :-) > > > > Steve Buchholz > > s_buchho@kla.com > > San Jose, CA (USA) > > Why not a clear sticker with the four rings in silver, except the last > one made into a Q in the Audi font in canary yellow, and underneath the > rings in red italics: "Vorsprung Durch Technik". I'd say a sticker no > larger than 3x5", and everyone willing places it in the same location, > on either the bottom driver's side of the rear window or the driver's > side rear door window. > > Alex > > ------------------------------ > > From: Dave Head <dhead@sundial.sundial.net> > Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 22:03:02 -0300 > Subject: Re:identify vs. stealth > > I don't know how it is for most of you, but whatever we come up with should > go in the back... > > That's the only part of me you're gonna see... > > ********************************AUDI FAN*********************************** > EMCM(SW) Dave Head > 87 5KCSTQ 176K miles and counting... 1.9 bar boost - Whee! > Maitland, Florida > ****************************************************************************** > > > ------------------------------ > > From: savidesn@audvid.win.net (Darin Nederhoff) > Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 19:31:07 > Subject: Re: Q-list Identification > > > > >When I get home, I'll fire up Paintbrush and lay out a draft decal. > >I'll post some samples on my website and announce the URL on the list. > > > >We can talk about this a bit more, and if there's real interest here, I > >can move things forward. > > Hey Lee, > > If you do put the decals on your site for viewing, please let me > know what the URL is for each sticker design. I'll be building a > dedicated Web site for the potential decals for the Q-list. > > > Darin > > > > > > - --- > **************************************************************** > ** Darin Nederhoff email: savidesn@audvid.win.net ** > ** "Audi Quattro Enthusiast" ** > ** Teflon makes things slick, Quattro makes 'em STICK! ;) ** > ** '93 S4 (pearl / Ecru) -in the family ** > ** '87 4kCSQ (sapphire blue / gray)-my daily driver ** > ** '86 XR4ti (white / gray) -my summer cruiser ;) ** > ** AUTOBAHNIA USA Homepage... http://www.win.net/~audvid ** > ** A site for Audi Quattro and Merkur XR4ti enthusiasts! ** > **************************************************************** > > > ------------------------------ > > From: orin@netcom.com (Orin Eman) > Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 19:04:45 -0700 (PDT) > Subject: Goodbye speeding ticket... (fwd) > > Forwarded message: > > From AUDI-NW-owner@u.washington.edu Tue Aug 27 17:54:21 1996 > > Message-Id: <199608280052.RAA11751@netcom2.netcom.com> > > Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 17:52:36 -0700 (PDT) > > Reply-To: orin@netcom.com > > Sender: AUDI-NW-owner@u.washington.edu > > Precedence: bulk > > From: orin@netcom.com (Orin Eman) > > To: "northwest audi enthusiasts" <audi-nw@u.washington.edu> > > Subject: Goodbye speeding ticket... > > Mime-Version: 1.0 > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > X-To: audi-nw@u.washington.edu (NW Audi List) > > X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] > > X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.0 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > > > > Well, we finally got to my court date. I was too busy to handle it myself > > so I hired an attorney. He got it dismissed on the right to a speedy > > trial - they had taken four months to get it to court. > > > > I saw three other cases. The first two were dismissed because the > > police office didn't show - the judge prompted the first guy by asking > > him if he had any motions once it was clear the officer wasn't there. > > As soon as they guy managed to say he wanted the case dismissed because the > > officer wasn't present, the judge granted the motion and dismissed the case. > > The next was faster - an attorney representing himself: "I'd like to make > > the same motion". Judge: "Granted". Attorney: "Does that mean it's > > dismissed?". Judge: "That was the motion wasn't it?". > > > > Then there was another guy representing himself where the cop did show up > > and just 'translated' his notes on the ticket. The defendant tried to > > show that the speed limit sign was obscured (and seemed to succeed) but > > never challenged the speed or the radar... he lost but the judge > > reduced the ticket by 1mph which saved about $40. > > > > The whole thing sure looks like revenue enhancement to me. The city > > doesn't seem to be putting much effort into prosecuting these cases. > > I guess they hope that their 'settlement conference' will persuade > > most people to accept a reduced fine rather than going to court. > > > > BTW: This was in Seattle. > > > > Another note: DON'T SPEED IN EDMONDS. According to my attorney they are > > worse than Bellevue and will cite for 1mph over the limit! > > > > > > Orin. > > > > ------------------------------ > > From: "Frontstage" <frntstg9@allinux1.alliance.net> > Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 22:07:41 -0500 > Subject: Re: Audi Master Technician (fwd) > > DITTO!!!!!!! > frontstage > > - ---------- > > From: Phil Payne <quk@sievers.com> > > To: quattro@coimbra.ans.net > > Subject: Audi Master Technician (fwd) > > Date: Tuesday, August 27, 1996 5:49 PM > > > > In message <199608271614.AA09629@interlock.ans.net> Dan Simoes writes: > > > > > Dan, I am a Master VW/Audi Technician working in a VW/Audi/Porsche > > > Dealer in New Jersey. I came across your web page by posting a question > > > in the Rec.Auto.Volkswagen.watercooled Newsgroup about helping anyone > > > with Audi problems. I have all the factory manuals,Tech > Bulletins,Wiring > > > Diagrams and have attended 17 Audi training seminars over the past 10 > > > years. I have been working on VW/Audi at the dealer level since 1976. > > > > The only word that adequately describes my response is: "Welcome!" > > > > (You might care to warn your employers that a significant increase in > > workshop bookings might be imminent.) > > > > -- > > Phil Payne > > phil@sievers.com > > Committee Member, UK Audi [ur-]quattro Owners Club > > ------------------------------ > > From: The Judge <dismiss@earthlink.net> > Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 19:26:36 -0700 > Subject: Sunroof and Wiper Pump Questions > > 1. How much have any of you paid for a sunroof repair (on any model). > Specifically, if the cables are stretched or similar problems. > Ballpark? > > 2. Has anyone replaced the wiper fluid pump? My flow is real low, and > I do not think it is the hose or the nozzle? Any suggestions? Cost? > > > Todd > > '90 80Q (Terror of Los Angeles) > '86 16V Wolfsburg Scirocco > '85 5KCS (Boneyard Special) > > ------------------------------ > > From: AUDIDUDI@delphi.com > Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 22:23:42 -0500 (EST) > Subject: Mike Loeks & John Lewis phone home... > > Please get in touch with me so I can ship out your wheels ... believe it or > not, but my dog ate the piece of paper on which I wrote your street address > (and email address) and my efforts to track you down through other channels > have come to nought... > > _ _ > / l l o l \ l o Jeffrey Goggin > /__l l l / l l l l l l / l l * * * * * * * > / l l_l \_l l l__/ l_l \_l l AudiDudi@delphi.com > > > ------------------------------ > > From: The Judge <dismiss@earthlink.net> > Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 19:30:49 -0700 > Subject: Add Suggested Service Intervals to Archives? > > Why don't we compile a comprehensive service interval suggestion FAQ for > each model and add it to the archives? > > I ask this b/c I often see people saying "You have to replace the timing > belt at 80K miles" or similar things in messages, yet these are not > complied anywhere. > > Right know I would like to know what suspension components should be > replaced on my '90 80Q, but would like to go to a archived suggestion > sheet if I could. > > > What do you think? > > Todd > > The Judge > '90 80Q (Terror of Los Angeles) > '86 Wolfsburg Scirocco > '85 5KCS (Boneyard Special) > > ------------------------------ > > From: ScharfR@aol.com > Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 22:33:49 -0400 > Subject: S6 vs. Volvo 850 Turbo R (was Re: ipd) > > In a message dated 96-08-26 18:19:22 EDT, spowers@spdg.COM (Steve Powers) > writes: > > << Engine performance was comparable. The Volvo had less than 6% more > horsepower at the expense of torque. It had more than 14% less torque. > Audi: 227 bhp/258 lb-ft vs. Volvo 240 bhp/221 lb-ft. Torque gets > you off the line, horsepower gives you top speed. >> > > Just as important as the maximum torque is the rpm level at which it occurs. > The S6 achieves maximum torque at 1,950 rpm, then holds it constant through > about 4,500. That is torque from scarcely above idle, all the way through > the mid-range. That's plenty of oomph and right off the line. > > The Volvo also uses a low-rpm torque strategy, just less of it. It delivers > 221 lb/ft at 2,100 rpm and has a similar regulation strategy to keep things > on the boil through the mid-range. But it simply delivers less torque, > higher up the rpm range. Think of the Audi's advantage as equivalent to the > delta in total area under the curve, if you were to overlay the two engine's > torque curves. > > Manufacturer's performance figures notwithstanding, the bottom line is that > in a drag race (crude test of strength) the Audi will still get up and go a > little better than the Volvo, thanks to power _and_ traction. The S6 has > four wheels driving, Torsen to distribute power front to rear, and (in the > most recent iterations) Electronic Differential Locking - EDL - to act as a > traction control system at the front and rear. The Audi has more inertia to > overcome, but more power and traction to apply to the task. > > The Volvo isn't slow. It also has a form of brake intervention traction > control that will help it get power to the ground, but still has the limit of > front wheel drive. It can't get all of it's power to the ground without > losing some time (and making a lot of heat) with its TRACS traction control > system. So it won't beat the S6 is a straight line, or much of any other > kind of race (except, unfortunately, the sales race). But it still beats the > rear-drive BMW, just like in the Volvo ads. It may please some to learn that > BMW lost more than the 0-60 race; they also lost an "unfair advertising" > appeal against the Swedes. They strenuously objected to the "Volvo beats > BMW" ad, asked Volvo to pull the advertising, formally objected to the > industry's advertising review board, and lost. > > Too bad, tears well up, fade to black > > ------------------------------ > > End of quattro-digest V3 #951 > ***************************** > > * > * To unsubscribe, mail to majordomo@coimbra.ans.net and in the body of > * your note, say: > * unsubscribe quattro-digest > * Questions, comments to quattro-owner@coimbra.ans.net > Al Powell Voice: 409/845-2807 107 Reed McDonald Bldg. 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