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Here is a repost from rec.autos.makers.vw.watercooled. The arthur of the article, Randy Hubbard works at RACEWARE: >From news.interlog.com!news2.interlog.com!news.dra.com!netaxs.com!hunter.premier.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsxfer2.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Tue Jul 30 12:42:50 1996 Path: news.interlog.com!news2.interlog.com!news.dra.com!netaxs.com!hunter.premier.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsxfer2.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: raceware1@aol.com (RACEWARE1) Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.vw.watercooled Subject: Re: 7500 miles? Date: 29 Jul 1996 16:48:18 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 54 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4tj82i$334@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <ElzD44y00YUr15=Eo0@andrew.cmu.edu> Reply-To: raceware1@aol.com (RACEWARE1) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com Hi Calvin, I don't know how long you have been following this user's group, but several months ago, I was engaged in a lengthy debate on this subject, because my '96 Passat VR6 Owner's Manual said exactly what your's says: The First Oil Change is to be performed AFTER 7,500 miles. At times this became a VERY heated discussion as some people have almost a religious experience when it comes to engine oil. I will spare you the hostility, insults, and name calling that dominated most of the discussion. >From my perspective as an automotive engine design engineer, working with the car companies and professional race teams for the past 25 years, I chose to change my oil at 7,500 miles as mandated by VW. I have researched this subject with quality control and lubrication engineers at VW U.S. & in Germany. Last month I was at VW's engine plant in Salzgitter, Germany and I specifically inquired about the "break-in oil" used as a factory fill on these engines. As I have posted elsewhere online, the factory fill has additional additives to eliminate cold start wear, and prevent corrosion. The oil is NOT standard "over-the-counter" engine oil. By working with the engineers and quality assurance folks at VW, I was aware that VW/Audi & reportedly BMW have all experience problems with customers who change their oil before the specified interval. The difficulty that customers experienced is high oil consumption. This is a direct result of the piston rings not being "seated" or perfectly worn into the cylinders, as normally occurs during the first several thousand miles of operation. By changing the oil prematurely, from the factory fill, the ring seating operation seems to take much longer, and in some cases, appears to never fully occur. This is the reason VW changed it's first oil drain from 7,500 miles or 6 months in 1995, to 7,500 miles or 12 months for the '96 models. VW wants you to keep the factory fill in until the piston rings are fully seated. After that you can change it at 7,500 mile increments, or everyday if you are inclined :-) You have no reason to be concerned about "gunk" in your new engine, as your oil filter will catch and hold any debris large enough to cause appreciable wear. (BTW, if you could see how clean the engines are assembled in Salzgitter, you wouldn't blink an eye at going 7,500 miles on the factory fill). The decision is yours, and don't count on your dealer for help, as most of them haven't read the Owner's Manuals and often provide inaccurate information, unfortunately. Maybe someday more of the dealers will take an interest in QUALITY customer service. Hope this information proves useful to you. On the 'Bahn, Randy, a.k.a. BoltMeister ****Check out VW Interests at HTTP://HOME.AOL.COM/RACEWARE1**** -- Vincent Shek mailto:vincent@algorithmics.com -- Toronto, Canada
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