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Re: when to turn off ABS
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>the next thing I learn from my insurance renewal is that ABS discount
>has been taken away 'coz ABS failed to reduce the amount of
>collisions/claims/injuries. No sh*t, for crying out loud!
If you review that insurance company sponsored report supposedly done
by "research professionals" you will note the following facts not
reported to the media so that us dumb people won't argue when our
rates go up again:
The report looked at only GM cars with and without ABS involved in
"accidents". This includes all types like rear end, frontal, side
impact, rollover etc.. Here's where you have to pay attention...
Example: Car A is an ABS equipped car involved in an accident like
being T-boned at a light by car B who ran a red. The study counted
this incident and stated that the ABS in car A was not effective at
preventing this accident!!! Now, even if you are not a rocket
scientist, you can see that whether or not car A had ABS had
absolutely NO EFFECT on the outcome (assuming A did not skid into the
intersection and that's not the example I'm illustrating anyhow).
However, this counts as a bad mark against ABS.
Example 2: Car A is waiting at a light when car B slams into the rear
end of A. Well, don't you know, the ABS of car A failed to prevent
the accident. Strike 2 for ABS.
I hope your getting the point. There were many of these so called
incidents included in the report which obviouly skews the data to the
insurance companie's favor. This was another insurance company funded
study that only fuels their interest of sucking more money out of our
already insurance cost overburdened pockets. This would explain your
Phantom ABS discount.
I work for a Big Three automaker as a Vehicle Dynamics Engineer and
have spent a lot of time testing vehicles with and without ABS. My
conclusion is this: most people will benefit from the advantages
offered by ABS in terms of vehicle controllability in a panic/low
coeficient situation. As mentioned by someone else, it does not take
the place of a skilled driver. Instead, it can enhance a mediocre
We can all think of situations where the system might hinder
performance and not perform the task in an optimal fashion.
Understand that most drivers are NOT skilled and that OEMs Must design
for the "worst case" condition. If I was a passenger with my mother-
in-law and she hit a patch of ice under braking, I would feel a lot
safer if I knew the ABS would keep her pointed straight and on the
road alowing her to "steer" the car. Think about it...
I can only say that all of you with ABS cars should spend some time
driving in the conditions you often experience (in a safe environment
like an empty parking lot or deserted dirt road, etc) with ABS and
without. Do your own "study" and determine whether your driving
benefits or suffers from its characteristics. At least you can then
make an educated choice based on YOUR experience when conditions