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Hi guys just wanted to tell you guys to keep
your eyes open for TURBO MAGAZINE 
My 1987 5kcstq with 311hp at the wheels
is going to be featured in it!!!!
It's the june issue which comes out May 1st 
I own RIPP MODIFICATIONS IN NEW YORK
my number is in TURBO if anyone needs it!!!
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> *  Welcome to the digest version of the quattro list.
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> *  In this issue:
> Perspective on Email
> Arresting Dialog
> A Volvo V70 wagon spotted...(4WD??)
> Re: verifying miles (kinda long)
> RE: Is the TAP chip junk?
> Audi FS
> Re: de plane, de plane
> Vacuum line filter found!
> Spring parts
> my idle story
> Re: Misc. Ramblings
> Re: How about rear fogs for Coupe GT?
> Mad at me?
> 4ksq for sale soon
> Re: Vader Cap
> Re: 200TQ chip/spring mod info
> Re: Is the TAP chip junk?
> Resting on the shifter
> Re: Gearbox Drain/Fill plug size. -Thanks
> Neat Feature (92 S4)
> Re: Exactly my concerns
> Fender Rolling / Flares
> Brake-in Smokin out
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 17:08:50 GMT
> From: quk@sievers.com (Phil Payne)
> Subject: Perspective on Email
> 
> In message <17CEC936DC8@agcom.tamu.edu> "Al Powell" writes:
>   
> > Q:  How many internet mail list subscribers does it take
> >      to change an Audi light bulb?
> >  
> > A:  1,331:
> 
> Wrong. 1,332.
> 
> You forgot the small boy who has to be sent under the car to try and find
the 
> stoopid little nut that holds the upper right side of the right headlight
in 
> place and should be captive in the fitting but isn't because one fine
spring 
> day in 1988 an Audi mechanic wasn't paying attention to his spot welding
kit 
> and so the _DAMN_ nut falls out every single time I take out the front
right 
> headlight.
>  
> Which, of course, is the uniquely "Audi" only _DAMN_ way of changing the
bulb!!
> 
> - --
>  Phil Payne
>  phil@sievers.com
>  Committee Member, UK Audi [ur-]quattro Owners Club
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 12:38:09 -0400
> From: "STEVEN P. ADAMS" <adams1@webspan.net>
> Subject: Arresting Dialog
> 
> Al Gressler wrote:
> > Wasn't necessary to make the motion.  Judge dismissed the case because
> > the officer did not appear in court.
> 
> Good for you but you may have had a little luck on your side.
>  
> > Moral and Worthless Free Advice:  Don't volunteer ANYTHING and don't
> > outright lie.  Don't wiseoff, but don't be intimidated either.  Don't
> > guess what the law is; find out before you show up in a court,
preferably
> > from an attorney.  (I'm not one!). If you can afford the time, show up
> > for your day in court.
> 
> Good advice.
> 
> > You have nothing to lose because often the
> > officer will fail to appear if it's a trivial case. 
> 
> Hopefully for you!!
>  								        > Don't make up a
> > story for the judge... he or she has heard them all.  
> 
> More good advice.  Same goes for stories to cops.
> 
> > And, above all,
> > remember that police officers are human beings, have fights with their
> > wives, get mad at their bosses, get shot at, and, like the rest of us,
> > every so often can have a bad day.
> 
> Thank you for your consideration.  Everyone has bad days-I feel bad for
> those who have encountered police with bad attitudes or get you with
> lecture sessions-it ain't right-I know I wouldn't like it done to me. 
> The worst thing this does is sour general attitudes toward police and
> some more should realize it.  
> > 
> > And Hell, some of them might even drive Audis.
> 
> 1988 90Q and absolutely love it!
> > 
> > my 2 cents worth.
> > 
> > Al Gressler
> > 91 90q20v  (wife's, but I get to listen the "funny noise" coming from
the
> > hood)
> P.S.  I'm not offering any advice on the ticket because I'm not familiar
> with Ca. law.  I did like the comment about the track, just because you
> said "pretty d*mn close" doesn't mean you were on a public highway,
> right??
> 
> Steve Adams
> Long Beach Twp. Police, N.J.
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 12:39:46 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Nivi@aol.com
> Subject: A Volvo V70 wagon spotted...(4WD??)
> 
> Hi guys,
> 
> On my way up to jury duty (sucks) this morning, spotted a V70 wagon - is
that
> the 4wd version? Or it just means wagon? Anyway, not too different from
the
> 850 wagon....but I did see a 850 glt, which had *huge* brakes and
calipers,
> *much* bigger than the s4's - do I have to upgrade *everything* to
euro-specs
> over here?? I priced out the kit from Hoppen - it's in the $ 2600 range
for
> front only...(don't remember exact prices, but I'll have to wait a bit)
> 
> Dorab (nivi@aol.com)
> 1993 S4 (for sale in a week)
> 1992 S4 (*nice* handling)
> 1990 CQ (still my favorite Audi, with the S2 coupe)
> 1986 Caprice (still my favorite overall car for the US roads, think
*torque*)
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 12:47:59 -0400
> From: "STEVEN P. ADAMS" <adams1@webspan.net>
> Subject: Re: verifying miles (kinda long)
> 
> Ignore this if it's a second time- I got an error message the first time
> so don't know if it went out.
> DF Wrote: 
> > Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 09:11:58 -0400 (EDT)
> > From: DFAUTOHAUS@aol.com
> > Subject: Re: verifying miles
> > 
> > So
> > 
> > If some low life clocks a car or changes the speedo, he's not going to
tell anyone is he? So how does carfax know this unless its done by the
dealer and logged into the mgf's computer in which case the is some idea of
the true miles? Even then there is now way of knowing for sure how far the
car went with a broken odo/speedo. Hence even these cars should be sold tmu
(true mileage unknown).
> > Please let me know your thoughts
> > 
> > Thanks
> > DF
> Here are my thoughts through my experience.
> Sometime back in 1991, I purchased my 1988 90Q from a "reputable"
> Monmouth County, N.J. dealer.  Awesome car with about 16,000 miles
> showing on the odometer.  It was believable as from the immaculate looks
> of the car.  The killer was a hole worn into the driver's floor mat just
> below the acceleration pedal.  When this was brought to the salesman's
> attention, he didn't have an answer.  A trip to the manager and then to
> the maintenance records showed the speedo had broken with approx. 30,000
> miles on it.  Well, this changed things, with some talking we got a deal
> we couldn't pass up.  Still being naive, when we took the title, a
> mileage figure around 46,000 miles was listed.  Fine with us, but we
> later found that it was not exactly the right thing to do.  Sometime in
> 1994, I went to trade it in on a new car.  When I was discussing the
> mileage situation with the dealer, he stated that whenever a speedo
> breaks like this, it should become a TMU car-you still never know how
> long a person drives before having it fixed and retrospectively there
> was a hole in the d*mn floor mat.  Of course that devalues the car, so I
> didn't trade it in.
>      Now in 1997, I couldn't be happier that I didn't trade it in.  It
> is the best car I've ever owned by far and although I do more reading
> than contributing, I've found there's a lot of great people on the list
> willing to help each other.  I have 144,000 miles on the odometer and
> add at least 30,000 miles to it-the Miles Are Truely Unknown.
> 
> Steve Adams
> Long Beach Island, N.J.
> Happy Audi Owner
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 10:01:27 -0800
> From: Sargent Schutt <sargent@symposiafoundation.org>
> Subject: RE: Is the TAP chip junk?
> 
> I had one in my 90 90q 20v. Result - modest increase in power (as
> promised) and no problems. I put about 40k miles onthe chip before
> selling the car. (from 85-125k miles).
> 
> I have a TAP chip in my 91 200q (20vt) and no problems to speak of
> (other than recently developing a boost leak - as yet to be pinpointed.
> 
> Otherwise no probs. You might check your O2 sensor.
> 
> Sorry canít help more...
> 
> Sarge
> 
> 91 200q TAP
> 86 5ktq I.A.
> formerly 90 90q 20v
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 13:02:16 -0400 (EDT)
> From: "Bob D'Amato" <mx@snet.com>
> Subject: Audi FS
> 
> Saw this ad in todays paper...
> IUD.
> 
>  82 4000 COUPE, runs well, some body damage, with same color parts car 
> which runs but has front end wheel damage, $500. (860) 652-8922. 
> Glastonbury 
> 
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> 
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> 
> 
> _____________________________________________________________________
> Bob D'Amato SNET 300 George St. New Haven, CT 06510 203-771-7081
> 		       	http://www.quattro.org
>                Drive Safe, Drive Fast, Drive a Quattro
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 13:11:54 -0400
> From: "STEVEN P. ADAMS" <adams1@webspan.net>
> Subject: Re: de plane, de plane
> 
> Steve Buchholz wrote:
> > 
> > Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 12:34:40 -0700
> > From: steveb@falcon.kla.com (Steven Buchholz)
> > Subject: Re: de plane, de plane
> > 
> > > I don't know where you got your definition of a speed trap, but most
> > > states use lines painted on the highway and merely start timing you
as you cross
> > > the first, and stop as you cross the second.  The distance between
the two being
> > > fixed, the calculation is usually reduced to reading your speed
directly from a
> > > pre-printed chart.  BTW, VASCAR is another of them time-distance
calculatin'
> > > muthas...
> > >
> > ... it turns out that in the state of California the law states that
> > speed traps are illegal.  In this definition prohibits the CHP or local
> > REOs from measuring a distance and timing how long it takes you to
cover
> > that distance.  The way they sneak around the law is that they match
> > your speed with the plane and time how long it takes the plane to cover
> > a known distance.
> > 
> > On another part of this thread ... I do not believe that it is
necessary
> > for the plane operator to sign the ticket ... there is probably some
> > sneaky way to obviate the observing officer from signing the ticket.
> 
> The officer pilot can sign tickets for the ground officer before he/she
> is airborne.
> > 
> > Another definition of a speed trap in CA is related to the
applicability
> > of RADAR evidence.  They must do a RADAR survey of the stretch that
they
> > want to monitor and demonstrate that 85% of the traffic travelled at or
> > below the posted limit.  If this is not the case it falls under the
speed
> > trap definition.
> > 
> > Steve Buchholz
> > s_buchho@kla.com
> > San Jsoe, CA (USA)
> I am interested in the outcome of any court decision.  The only
> legitimate way the aircraft can enforce speed is from measuring time
> travelled between two fixed points.  As far as pacing, police vehicles
> must have current documentation showing speedo calibration to
> effectively pace another vehicle.  There is no way of calibrating the
> airspeed indicator of an aircraft that I know of due to changing wind
> speeds and directions, and how can the ground speed be calibrated.     
> Unless they are using some new type of radar/laser certified for the
> aircraft, I'd be looking for painted lines or overpasses in the area
> where the violation occured.  Let us know the outcome anyway.
> 
> Sorry I wasn't going to get involved.
> 
> Steve Adams 
> Long Beach Twp. Police, N.J.
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 13:25:18 -0400 (EDT)
> From: RELAYER@aol.com
> Subject: Vacuum line filter found!
> 
> I remember the talk recently about the possibility of a vacuum line
> filer....and I just found one..sort of.   Its called a Pall filter, and
it's
> for IV lines in hospitals.  It has vacuum hose size openings at either
end,
> and has a transparent box with a paper filter element inside.  The filter
box
> measures about 1.5"X1.5"x1".  I have one of these that I took from a
supply
> cabnet to do some research on...looks to me it will work perfectly!
> 
> I will ask some of our nurses here at work about who to call about these
and
> how much they cost.  If interested, let me know and I will pass on the
info
> when I find out or maybee we will have to buy these things in bulk rather
> than 1 at a time.
> 
>                     /\        _I             Christian J. Long
>                   /    \ I_I I_I I           Orlando, Florida, USA
>                                              UCF Alumni 1994
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> 1990 Coupe Quattro      Red/Black, K&N cone, BBS wheels, 82K          
> 1990 90                       Gold/Tan, 72K
> Past Audis:  '80 5000T  '84 Coupe GT  '85 Coupe GT  '87 Coupe GT 2.3 
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 12:43:52 -0600
> From: kmcrae@grundy-center.k12.ia.us (Kevin McRae)
> Subject: Spring parts
> 
> Hi to all -
> If the Gods of good weather continue to smile on the Midwest, I will this
> weekend take my beloved '83 CGT from storage.  Alas, since its rebuild
two
> summers ago, it still lacks a front air dam and misc. front end trim
> pieces.  Does anyone know of or personally have access to such parts to
> sell?  I have found them before, but $300 for an air dam is too much for
> this Scot.  I could also use a new driver's seat, but that's on the wish
> list.  The interior is tan leather, just in case.  Thanks for the
replies.
> This list makes my lunch time much funner :*>.
> 
> Kevin McRae
> '83 CGT (still snoozing)
> '90 CQ (two new door dents this week! Careless motorists are a cruel and
> ignorant lot.)
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 13:58:34 -0400 (EDT)
> From: "Stephen J. Siblock" <steve.siblock@sheridanc.on.ca>
> Subject: my idle story
> 
> Thanks to your help cleaning my ISV on my 5000 turbo, I wanted to pass on

> another tip I found out while checking over my engine.
> 
> I never knew of the little gem called the "Throttle Position Sensor" 
> (TPS).  It's in front of the intake (turbo in my case).  It's supposed to

> move freely and "snap back" if you move the lever which is tension-spring

> mounted.  It's connected to the throttle and transmits the throttle 
> position to the computer.  Mine was jammed stuck with dirt and grease
> on the outside, so that the 
> spring wouldn't move.  Some WD40 and minutes later it was shiny and packs

> quite a whallup when it snaps back.  It made an immediate difference on 
> my idle and my fuel economy when combined with the cleaned-out ISV.
> 
> Next is to have the air/fuel mixture adjusted, fix a poor connection on 
> the temperature sensor, fix a pinhole in the muffler, and reset the CO2. 
As 
> usual, it's the little things that KILL my car's performance.  :-)
> 
> 
> 
>  Stephen Siblock, Associate Registrar          Tel: 905-845-9430 x2695
>  Sheridan College, Oakville, Ontario, Canada   Fax: 905-815-4048
>  Co list-owner, Ontario College and Universities' Registrars' 
>                 Discussion List
>  == Audi Quattro Listmember and Enthusiast ===
>  '86 Audi 5000 CD Turbo Silver/Navy  (the current one)
>  '81 Audi 5000 S Arctic White (dead and buried)
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 10:57:46 -0700
> From: John Eickerman <jke@wolfenet.com>
> Subject: Re: Misc. Ramblings
> 
> At 9:59 AM -0500 4/17/97, Mann Law wrote:
> >	Laws vary from state to state.  In Indiana, one of the most
> >common driving tax collection [some call this speeding tickets] methods
> >is to put a plane in the air, paint lines on the road, and have a dozen
> >cops sit on their ass around a corner---then methodically pull people
> >over on their way to work and summons them to pay the tax.  Now, of
> >course there is a common fix to this problem [other than slowing down,
or
> >watching for the plane] but it requires several buddies, several gallons
> >of white paint, a wide roller [much quicker than the brush method], a
> >dark night and .... Now, this is illegal, so *don't* do it.  I do not
> >speak from the experience gathered in my youth here [commercial grade
> >roller please...14"'s or so in width].  Again, this is illegal to
> >actually do, you will be fined, jailed, maybe even hanged...so, slow
down
> >instead:)
> 
> Why not just get a scanner from Radio Shack and tune into the state
patrol
> freq.  This will work for both aircraft and when one car radars and
others
> pick up.  I have saved myself a few times with my scanner working.  I do
> know that mobile use of a scanner is illegal in some areas of the
country,
> check with the local person you are trying to avoid and find out for
sure.
> 
> 
> 
> - --
> John Eickerman - jke@wolfenet.com
> 1987 Audi 4000CSquattro
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 13:01:45 -0500
> From: ejfluhr@austin.ibm.com (Fluhr)
> Subject: Re: How about rear fogs for Coupe GT?
> 
> Huw Powell writes:
> >As I understand it, at least one is set up as a rear fog light on some
> >coupes.  Which ones?  Who knows.  I have two (or three?) reflector bars
now
> >and I'm considering drilling a hole in the rear of one of those "almost
lamp
> >housings" to see if there is reflective material (silvering) in there. 
If
> >so, it should be easy to drill and Dremel a socket for some OEM bayonet
or
> >snap mount light socket.  Anybody else out there know about this stuff?
> 
> I have mine connected to my brake lights, following the advice of Jesse
> Almero, a Coupe GT lister in Torrence, CA.   (Haven't seen him post to
> the list recently, is he still here?)
> 
> His cousin wrote up a full procedure, which I may still have archived on
> my machine at home.  If so, I'll post it to the list (if anyone is 
> interested) and I'll add it to the tips section of my Coupe specs page.
> 
> (BTW, if anyone has a tech procedure for a Coupe, send it to me so I can
> add it to my page.   http://www.igdc.com/ejfluhr/audi/coupes.html)
> 
> Basically, it is really easy.  You have to remove the crossbar, cut off
> the reflector sections (careful, you need to glue them back on), and
paint
> them silver (or some reflective color).  Then you have to clean the
silver
> paint off of the red "see-thru" section of the crossbar.  Drill/dremel a
> hole in the reflectors for bulbs, wire them up, and glue it all back into
> place.  The hardest part is removing the silver paint from the light
housing.
> Otherwise, it is a pretty simple job.
> 
> Two extra brake lights looks pretty cool, too.   :-)
> 
> Later,
> Eric
> '85 Coupe GT, no doubts when I'm stoppin'
> - ---
> Eric J. Fluhr                                Email: 
ejfluhr@austin.ibm.com
> 630FP Logic/Circuit Design                   Phone:  (512) 838-7589
> IBM Microelectronics Div.                    Austin, TX
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 14:06:00 -0640
> From: cobram@Channel1.Com (Cobram)
> Subject: Mad at me?
> 
>  -=> Neil Swanson illuminates us with <=-
> 
>  NS> This is an area with alot of disposable income.  And alot of cars we
>  NS> would die for are in the hands of people who have them 'cause they
can.
>  NS> But they just don't know why.
> 
> 
>      Why ask why?? This is one of the things I love about this
>      country, if it wasn't for the (insert name here) we'd
>      never get a shot at these great cars. Really, if SOMEONE
>      didn't shell out over $55,000.00 initially for my V8Q, I
>      never would have been able to buy it four years and
>      70,000 miles later for the price of a Cheby Caprice.
>      Someone had to eat the $10,000.00 + a year in depreciation.
>      God Bless America.  A friend of mine recently picked up
>      a Mercyless Benz with 80,000 miles that originally sold
>      for $65,000.00 and he paid $14,000.00 for it. I hope "they"
>      never stop buying the right cars for the wrong reasons!
> 
>      BCNU
> 
>      Cobram@Channel1.Com
> 
> 
> ... Just got a new car for my wife... Great trade...
> ___ Blue Wave/386 v2.30
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 14:17:42 -0400
> From: John_Russell@voyager.umeres.maine.edu (John Russell)
> Subject: 4ksq for sale soon
> 
> 85 4ksq
> 
> 136k red with the dark brown (almost black) cloth
> very few small spots of cosmetic rust
> good rubber
> p/w, p/l, after market stereo
> have all papers
> 
> asking $3k
> 
> 
> John
> 
> 85 4ksw
> 90 100
> 93 90cs
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 14:22:36 -0400 (EDT)
> From: STEADIRIC@aol.com
> Subject: Re: Vader Cap
> 
> >Yeah, I was thinking about adding the new Vader Cap 2000 to 20v(3b)
head.
> >I hear it can add up to 20% in hp and torque.  The turbo's "thrust"
should
> >be a lot better.  Does anyone have any experience with the Vader Cap or
> >with the Super Sucker air intake systems?  
> 
> The super sucker might make you go faster by making your wallet lighter, 
> That's all......
> 
> 
> Later!
> 
> 
> Eric Fletcher S.O.C.
> '87 5KCSTQIA2RSR2B
> St. Louis, MO
> 
> STEADIRIC@aol.com
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 14:22:49 -0400 (EDT)
> From: STEADIRIC@aol.com
> Subject: Re: 200TQ chip/spring mod info
> 
> >Now to the upgrade info. I've been corresponding with a list member
about 
> >the turbos. He gave me Europart's name (not Europarts). [on vendor list
w/ 
> >na ?]
> >I talked to Walter at Europart about the spring/chip upgrade. He told me
> >$1800!!! I was shocked at this price. After reading through the archives
and
> >looking at the online info, I thought an upgrade for the 200 turbo would

> >be in
> >the 400-500 range. He told me to be very careful of these upgrades. He 
> >mentioned
> >something about the 5th cylinder "burnt valve" problem. Has anyone out
there
> >upgraded their 91 200TQ with the chip and spring? If so, I'd appreciate
any
> >comments/information.
> 
> Walter needs to quit smoking........   Call Ned Ritchie at Intended 
> Acceleration. (360/754-1411)
> 
> 
> Later!
> 
> 
> Eric Fletcher S.O.C.
> '87 5KCSTQIA2RSR2B
> St. Louis, MO
> 
> STEADIRIC@aol.com
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 14:23:29 -0400 (EDT)
> From: STEADIRIC@aol.com
> Subject: Re: Is the TAP chip junk?
> 
> >I just installed the TAP chip into my 90q20v and now the engine cuts out
at
> >1500 rpm. I tried restarting 8 times hoping to reset the computer. Two
of
> >the the eight times the car ran fine reving freely.
> >
> >Are these TAP chips reputable? I thought they were, everbody else seems
to
> >like em. Is there something else I need to reset?
> >
> >any help appreciated....
> 
> My opinion on tap is well know (Check the Archives, tap=Crap).  Stay away

> from it at all cost.
> 
> 
> Later!
> 
> 
> Eric Fletcher S.O.C.
> '87 5KCSTQIA2RSR2B
> St. Louis, MO
> 
> STEADIRIC@aol.com
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 14:36:52 -0400 (EDT)
> From: gwf@joker.ho.lucent.com
> Subject: Resting on the shifter
> 
> Going over the owners manual of my A4 1.8TQ, I noticed a paragraph
> in there that says to not keep your hand on the "stick", as this 
> would cause premature wear of the clutch.  How true is this statement?
> 
> One habit I do have is to rest my right hand on the shifter when I 
> drive.  I've never had premature wear problems with the Hondas that
> I've owned.  Are Audi's different?  Is it OK if I just rest it there,
> and not depress or move it?  The shifter stick can move up and down,
> something my other cars didn't allow.  Would depressing the shifter,
> either intentionally or resting on it, cause the clutch to wear more?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 19:49:38 +0100
> From: Mike Walder <miwa@premier.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: Gearbox Drain/Fill plug size. -Thanks
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Thanks to all those who replied, I got a 17mm Allen Key and have
completed
> the job.  Made shifting smoother, but still misses 2nd if changing from
1st
> at about 6000rpm, or engine breaking at about 4000.  I rearly do this,
> unless I'm testing, I guess I'll just have to be more gentle in future. 
I
> guess it is signs of the sync rings going,  I suspect I'll get at least
> another 40k if I'm careful.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> Mike
> -
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> 82 Audi 100 5E 2144cc inj (144k today)
> 84 Mitsubishi Galant Turbo (96k and rusty will be getting some TLC over
summer)
> 80 Rover 2600S SDI(46k yes, 46k and on head #5 or will be soon)
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> 
> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 14:49:00 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Nivi@aol.com
> Subject: Neat Feature (92 S4)
> 
> Hi Guys,
> 
> Just wondering how many 92 S4 owners have this little button on the
> windshield wiper knob - I just discovered it - it apparently starts just
the
> windshield washer jets instead of the headlights together (when
headlights
> are on) Quite a cool touch, IMHO, but not an everyday useful
feature....but
> that's the stuff I like about the car...
> 
> BTW, it just started raining here, and the Goodyear GS-D's in front and
Conti
> CZ 91's in back (don't ask me why, I didn't put them on) were doing
> *amazingly* well in light rain...just started....when the roadways are
the
> worst....even when fully soaked...great stuff up front, I must
say...limited
> experience with them though, as I haven't really pushed them hard until
> today...
> 
> Dorab (nivi@aol.com)
> 1993 S4 Black/Black, for sale next week
> 1992 S4 Black/Black, still tentatively keeping
> 1990 CoupeQ Black/Black
> 1986 Chevy Caprice, Dk. blue/Dk. Blue, NEW cross-drilled 12" rotors up
front
> (yes, they are *much* larger than the stock s4's, even in 1986), and are
> *awesome* - got them at BestPrice in Canada....
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 12:00:20 -0600
> From: audidudi@delphi.com (Jeffrey J. Goggin)
> Subject: Re: Exactly my concerns
> 
> >14. The way to fix the club is to spend time in the regions, force
> >national to make full disclosure, and NOT CREATE A SEPERATE CLUB. The
reason
> >that PCA and BMWCCA have better magazines, more events, and are less
> >expensive is that they have MORE members. If we splinter, each club will
fail
> >to have the critical mass to thrive.
> 
> I agree completely ... it is not now nor has it ever been my intention to
> undermine QCUSA.  I merely want to encourage them to be more forthcoming
> about the club's financial affairs (past, present and future) and more
> responsive to the demands, desires, dreams, etc. of its membership.
> 
> As for the cost of events, I have mixed feelings: On the one hand, I was
at
> one time involved with the local chapter of the BMW CCA club here in
Phoenix
> and I know the profits from the open-track events subsidized the rest of
the
> club's events for the remainder of the year.  While you may have paid a
bit
> more than absolutely necessary to participate in a track event, the extra
> money WAS returned to you in one form or another during the remainder of
the
> year.  I can understand and accept this, and I'm sure the same is true
for
> most people.
> 
> On the other hand, I've also been involved with a club where the cost of
> events was high simply because they had to make a larger profit in order
to
> recover the portion the national office siphoned-off for sanctioning
fees,
> administrative costs, equipment rental, track-rental deposits, etc.  Not
> surprisingly, nobody was very happy with this arrangement: The local
chapter
> didn't like it because they got the blame and the members who
participated
> didn't like it because the extra money they paid basically disappeared,
> never to be seen again.
> Needless to say, this club slid under the waves when its members finally
> started voting with their feet...
> 
> 
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>     / |      _| o    | \       _| o     Jeffrey Goggin
>    /__| | | / | | __ |  | | | / | |     audidudi@delphi.com
>   /   | |_| \_| |    |_/  |_| \_| |     http://people.delphi.com/audidudi
> 
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> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 97 14:27:00 PDT
> From: "Dupree, Robert A." <rdupree@sidley.com>
> Subject: Fender Rolling / Flares
> 
> Hey I know this has been approached before but...
> I am going to have to have body work done this summer; and I was   
> wondering if it is possible to have someone flare the fender wells to   
> appear like the S4, but mostly just to accomodate larger tire/wheel   
> combos.  I know it can be rolled, but I would like to hear thoughts on   
> flaring.  Would it be easier to just hand some S style body pannels on?  

>  Dumb question I know...
> 
> Bob Dupree
> '87 5000CS Quattro (needing cosmetics...)  
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 97 15:40:03 -0400
> From: Mike Arman <armanmik@n-jcenter.com>
> Subject: Brake-in Smokin out
> 
> Scott J relates an article by Kevin Cameron in Cycle World about breaking
in
> 1970s vintage BMW motorycles as follows: 
> 
> 
> >Kevin further proposes that this thinking has a sound history, reciting
some
> >experience with old motorcycle racing/builder cronies, a most credible
> >argument being the "dry break-in" of BMW bikes in the early 70's
eliminating
> >the grand oil consumption on new motors (drop of oil on the cylinders
then
> >30seconds of 1/2 redline, <yea, right!>). 
> 
> Guess what - this thinking is BULLSH*T! Pure, unadulterated, 100% BS. And
dumb.
> 
> I used to teach at American Motorcycle Institute in Daytona Beach back
then,
> and I assure you, if any of my students had tried to break in a BMW (or
> anything else) in that manner, I would have taken them out and shot them.
> Promptly.
> 
> Once they were properly and thoroughly shot, I would then jump up and
down
> on them until there was nothing left but little pieces, and then I would
> jump up and down on the little pieces for a few hours more, just to be
sure.
> 
> Most engine wear occurs in the first few seconds of starting. Metal to
metal
> contact with no film of oil results in destruction of the parts. Oil is
much
> cheaper than engines. Have you priced BMW motorcycle parts? One cylinder
of
> the flat twin costs more than the equivalent parts on my airplane! Run
'em
> dry? I don't think so. Expensive engines (Big aircraft piston engines,
> marine diesels) have a pre-oiler system which lubricates the bearings -
and
> other stuff - before you even start the engine! 
> 
> The only thing proven by that sort of imbecilic, ignorant, idiotic
procedure
> is that the engine is tougher than we have any right to expect. Rant mode
> on, 100% duty cycle, BS repellant deployed, Napalm sprayer pressurized,
> Terminators energized.
> 
> That's why they have MOS-2 paste (cam break-in lube), that's why we
pre-oil
> bearings on assembly, that's why Honda had teflon-coated rings on the
early
> (69-70) 750s - for BREAK IN! Be gentle - your engine will last LOTS
longer,
> and so will your wallet. People who advocate running a brand new engine
HARD
> are IGNORANT, and they will pay a healthy price, both in drastically
> shortened service life, higher oil consumption, and just plain old money.
> 
> True, newer engines don't need AS MUCH break in as in the old days
(better
> materials, closer machining tolerances, better designs), but when you see
> literature advising that "No break-in is needed!", this is an invention
of
> the sales department who a) are a collection of ignorant hucksters who
don't
> know anything anyway, and b) want you to buy a new one next year, or if
> possible, even next week.
> 
> BREAK IT IN! And I don't care what you use, Dino, synthetic, vegetable
> (Castor oil), but BREAK IT IN! (You should start with dino - single
grade,
> non detergent - other oils are "too slippery" and the rings may not seat
> correctly - then change to your choice of oil, again, whatever you want.)
> 
> Still fuming, but best regards,
> 
> Mike Arman
> 
> (Owner at one time of 19 BMW motorcycles - sanity somewhat recovered,
down
> to two.)
> 
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