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V8 Stuff (Manual vs. Automatic transmission) (longish)

In message <34C41F18.9DE18045@multiverse.com> hsapir writes:

> not to be snotty or anything...but I was refering to highline luxury cars. As
> much as Volvo & SAAB try (and as nice as they are), they still do not qualify.

Then why include BMW?

 Phil Payne
 Committee Member, UK Audi [ur-]quattro Owners Club