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Don't go there

The variables we are talking about here, can and do happen regardless of your
input Bruce.  What is the line that we cross?  I don't know, I know there is
one, but also I know there to be variables that influence that line, beyond
which a fair and reasonable driver can predict.  "Don't cross it", is like me
handing the keys to someone and saying, "Hey, no accidents".  If find that
statement the whole reason we have attorneys (another discussion, meant only
in the nicest way:).  

Being aware of the risks is really what my object is.  I consider myself to be
a darn good driver, I compare those skills to other q-owners at least a 1/2
dozen times a year, on a track.  So when I get bitten on the street, I think,
hmmm, was it driver error or did some other variable enter the equation that
changed things?  I want to argue the latter.  And do, from the very design of
the torsen.  All these physics are going on while you play.  When you cross
the line with the q-boasting friendship we call Traction, Torsen may not be so

Torsen is a dumb device, it senses traction only.  In Center form it doesn't
sense ANYTHING else.  That is it's exact limitation.  Look right at my
analysis of Page 10 of the Torsen article.  Please, someone help me read the
whole Center Torsen issue another way.

So, the conclusion?  Driver error is the reason for crossing the line?  When
that slip angle increases when you hit a section of black ice you didn't see
with your crappy US lights, or the dork in front of you brakes for that
bumpersticker vow to animals in the snow, I sure would hope that spiders don't
land in your lap.  Reality sucks sometimes.  The reality of a Center torsen is
no different.

I've *never* been in an accident either.

My .02
Scott Justusson