Parts is parts

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>scott, your original point was that the 'm' cars didn't have a "boxfull of
>special parts".  well, sorry, you're wrong, thats bollocks, and you know it. 
>they do.  motor, brakes, gearbox, suspension, even alloys.  much more than
the
>rs2, which was based on the s2 motor, gearbox and running gear/suspension.
>as you probably know, the 328i *followed* the m3 into production.  and used
>some of the m3 bits (do i hear 'return on investment'from the bean counters?)
>the 328i was good enough that people stopped buying the m3, and bmw had to
>come
>out with the evo version.
Well, I see a bunch of M3 copies running around right here, IN chicago.  I
know of only 2 RS2 copies in the country.  Based on the S2?  Yup, it is an I5.
Interesting to note, the new 323 and 328 will have 5 speed auto options.  The
lowly 328 17in wheels too.  You may want to take a gander at your suspension
comments again.  
The gearbox had 6 speeds like the S2.  Bolt in replacement?  Not in your car
sir.

>so, now you change tack and say that the m3's parts prices are reasonable,
>whereas audi's (rs2) are not. once again, you ignore the fact that, because
the
>bmw motor is exclusive, it is, by your own argument, expensive.  and of
course,
t>he motor changed between the 3.0 and the 3.2 double vanos.  exclusivity =
>expensive by your own argument.
I can buy a complete M3 motor from the factory for under 10 grand from the
dealer down the street.  The RS2?  Many wish.

>do you have access to the rs2 parts prices?  no you don't.  you have the
fiche.
> i've found that rs2 parts prices are no better or worse than i'd expect.
for
>example, i paid $10.14 for an indicator light, (which incidentally is the
same
>part as the s2, and the same price).  sure, if i blow a cam, i pay porsche
>prices.  so what?  in fact, wanna compare camshaft prices m3 vs rs2?  the
rs2,
>being only 2,200 in number, and the m3 being many thousands more?  i'm happy
>to
>oblidge...
Come on Dave.  How bout your fog lights?  Porsche.  How bout the front end
clip?  

You found parts prices no better or worse, defined might help, than what, I
might ask.  I compare.  Audi prices in general are higher than BMW, and I
don't bite for a minute that's a volume issue.  A few are even interchangeable
between marques.

We don't need this thread to go anywhere Dave.  Europe is really different,
when I can get rotors for an M3 for the price of an S4, and from the dealer
down the street, not special order.  A v8/a8 part?  Forgetaboutit.  Europe
import.  Wanta tune up the v/a8.  Hold on to your wallet.  Right in the v8
archives dude.

Nope, not for a second.  I find my porsche dealer has parts cheaper than my
audi dealer (excluding your RS2).  BMW is low in price on parts, and the half
the bin can be bolted on a bunch of machines, up and down the line.  Maybe why
the aftermarket tuners of Bimmers outnumber the Audis.  

Scott Justusson