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Subject: Re: Audi upgrades

>Next was a stage three chip modification by Ned Ritchie.  This is an

>outstanding upgrade and several people here in the Northwest recommended

>doing this.  I am very pleased with the work done by Ned.  My only complaint

>is that he gave me a ride in his car, and it is so damn fast that I may

>spend some more major bucks for more power.  This man knows what he is


Brett replied:

Which car?  Not only does it have more HP, but it could be as much as

700-800 pounds lighter(if both cars are mostly stock regarding body panels,

which I don't think they are :) which is a fair chunk of metal.  My 200q

20v weighs in at 4700-4800 according to the EPA sticker, and the 5k weighs

in at around 4100.  It's one of the reasons the 217hp of the 200q doesn't

"feel" like 217hp to a 5kCST owner <sigh> :)
Brett: you're looking at the wrong sticker, check your Audi brochure.  Stock
'91 200q weight is around 3620 #s (car and driver road test), the earlier
5000cst non-quattro probably weighs around 2800-3000 #s.  Anyone know for
sure?  5000 cstq's weight in between, around 3300 #s.  Additional weight is
related to: bigger (stronger) suspension pieces, front/rear brakes, quattro
probably adds 250# or so, additional reinforcements, etc.  The '91 wheels,
while bigger (7.5" by 15") are forged and extremely light; however, the tires
are bigger, so it's likely a wash.

>also purchased a set of DOT approved stainless steel brake lines from

>Wolfsport for $100.  Looked like a good price.  These will go on this

>weekend or next.

Brett replied:
$100?  For stainless lines?  I don't really see the point.  I'm sure

there's some minor benefit(less contamination?), but it doesn't seem worth

it to me(ie, I think there are better things to do with $100 :)  If someone

would like to explain the benefits...I would think stainless-steel

clutch/brake cylinders would be a MUCH more useful item; they seem to go

constantly for the single reason of corrosion :(

Umm..actually, aren't the existing lines SS?
He's refering to the flexible lines at each wheel.  Stock on all audis (AFAIK)
is a rubber line; he's replacing with a braided stainless steel casing with
teflon lines inside.  Benefit is that stock rubber line flex, making an
increased travel for the brake pedal.  The teflon lines don't flex, and the
brake pedal is more stiff.  GPR also sells two versions of these; DOT approved
and non-approved; should be very similar, but the non-DOT are cheaper.
Chris Miller, Windham NH, c1j1miller@aol.com
'91 200q web site:  http://members.aol.com/c1j1miller/index.html