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RE: no-handers and insults

Amusing thread this but starting (?) to get a little nasty and personal.

Seems to me Dave has made a real world observation which doesn't fit with
others theories.
BTW he has made it clear it was in a closed circuit fun-day situation where
people were encouraged to enjoy their vehicles in a safe environment - hey
we're pretty relaxed here in NZ :).

Anyway - either he's lying about what he observed (unlikely methinks) or
he's not lying. It saddens me that he has received what amounts to hate-mail
from some listers who are indulging in argumentum ad hominum.

I have been off this list for several months and just recently resubscribed.
The tone of this thread makes me wonder if I shouldn't unsubscribe again.

Cmon guys - keep it light hearted, to the point and cut the cutting
sarcasm - it is, after all, still the lowest form of wit.

Go visit rec.autos.driving if slagging off at each other is what you're


Greg Spark
'96 A4 1.8Tq 5sp mtm 187hp, remus, k&n - oh and I almost forgot - _torsen_
New Zealand - paradise in the South Pacific - come see for yourself if you
don't believe me.

-----Original Message-----

Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 12:47:23 +1200
From: Eaton Dave <dave.eaton@minedu.govt.nz>
Subject: RE: *no handers*- masters of ones own domain in NZ

like they say in nz, if it looks brown, and smells funny; it's shit.

thanks for another contribution of the above scott.  par for the course.
can we finish this now?  really?

'95 rs2
'90 ur-q

On Wednesday, July 01, 1998 11:08 AM, QSHIPQ@aol.com wrote:


Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 18:02:59 -0700
From: Sargent Schutt <sargent@novagate.com>
Subject: Re: no hands clapping; head in hands?

Funny, I remember being berated a few months back by some guy from NZ for
intentionally initiating oversteer in a turn with the e-brake. Something
'highly unsafe and immature behavior'. The guy made a whole rant about it.

And now we witness this man's pride in turning his car with no hands on the
wheel?! Look ma, no hands! For God's sake! Get a grip! Literally. And as
usual, the magical Torsen device gets all his praise. Thanks Jeff, for the
enlightening mechanical explanation.

Too funny. Absolutely ROTFL.

It might be defensible if he were using his hands to screw his head back on.
Priorities, you know. (I really can't believe they wouldn't throw you out
that, they would over here. You must always have your head screwed on and
tightly secured to your helmet). But we also don't get the really powerful
toys like he does. Mebbe there's something to be said for such lax rules...