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Re: FS: '87 4kq Turbo

> All good points. However, I didn't think that all q-listers were
> so track- and racing-biased. Audis are not just for track use,
> some people drive them on the highway and other places as well.

Agreed, but even on the road the 4kq is very nimble in comparison to the

> I would not like to drive a 4kq, even a tq, cross-country from
> New York to California, as it would be very noisy and not so
> comfortable, with little space for luggage and gear. The same trip
> would be great in a 5ktq. I also wouldn't want to take three other
> people on a trip or even a long drive in a 4kq, as the car is
> rather small.

I agree that a trip with more than 3 people is difficult in a 4kq.  Most of
that has to do with the pitiful trunk though.  My wife and I did about 4000
miles in my turbo and were comfortable the whole time.  The reality is that
I fit in the 4kq better than I do in the 5ktq.  More legroom in the front of
a 4kq.  The noise level is more in the 4kq but the ride is not much worse
than a 5ktq.

> I think you're entirely correct in saying that the 4kq makes a
> better track car, but I don't base my purchase solely on its
> suitability as a racecar. I think I can get a Porsche 951 to be
> just as fast as any 4ktq, short of some $25k+ worth of mods.
> Comparing a stock or relatively stock car to a highly modded car
> is apples to oranges. I can take an R32 or R33 Nissan Skyline GT-R
> or a Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VI and suitably modify it for track use
> and blow _any_ 4ktq into the weeds, with a suitable driver. I really
> doubt you can beat a prepped Evo VI with a 4ktq and I'll wager $100
> that you can't do it.

There are allot of cars that you can add to the list that will blow a 4kq
into the weeds.  That is not the point.  I wanted a fast and comfortable
sports sedan.  The 5ktq is a very nice car but for a sporting drive on the
backroads there is no comparison with the 4ktq.  If you ask me what car I
would prefer as a daily driver and a work car(I carry tool boxes and other
crap) the 5ktq is a better choice if I fit.

> Anyway, I'm tired of all the bashing. If you don't like 5ks, fine.
> That doesn't mean you have to insult 5k owners. I don't like most GM
> cars, but I don't go out of my way to bash GM owners.

Excuse me but I don't think I bashed anyone.  Is everyone so thin skinned
that they need to defend themselves when a light comment is made.

The 5ktq is a heavy, big, and wallowy car.  When any car meets that criteria
I consider it a pig.  It is not an insult to own a pig it is just

Pat Martin
86 4000csq turbo, 2 1/2 cat back, H&R-Boge, MC and loving it.  Drilled and
stopping it. Koenig Cobra 16x7 with Yokohama Avs intermediates turning it,
K&N and uh..
84 4000sq  AKA: The beater.
95 subaru legacy
Bothell, Wa