[200q20v] list quiet because cars are behaving?
hah at srv.net
hah at srv.net
Fri Aug 4 12:00:00 EDT 2000
No, that's not the reason...here's my story from Wednesday.
I had been driving the Audi for a couple days because a co-worker with whom
I am carpooling has taken a liking to it, I thought I'd humor her. And
despite the 100+ deg afternoon temps, the A/C was actually adequate (I
had thought annual R12 service was on the agenda until compressor
replacement, but might be able to skip this year). But the >$30 to fill up
vs <$20 for the VW meant I was headed back to James' house to trade cars
Rolled down the front windows to get the hot air out. Turned on A/C -
cooling down nicely. Roll up windows - wups, passenger front won't go up.
It's been intermittent in the past, but would go up after a down cycle on
the switch. Not this time, staying down despite 20+ down-up switch presses.
Maybe it's time to replace the passenger door hinge wires, the driver's
were done last summer (exactly a year ago). Roll down the other windows and
play with them for the rest of the drive to James' house. It's 100 degrees
out, did I mention?
Get to James' house, pull around back by the shop. Both his cars are gone,
so he's not home - at least he got his 200 out of the shop. Whip out the
always-in-the-car 4mm allen to remove the passenger's armrest, open up the
always-in-the-car DMM to take some readings...and its little batteries have
Ok, drive home 15 minutes in the GTI (ah, cool...) to get toolbox, other
DMM, Bentley set. Grab a burrito & water bottle. Drive back to James'.
Fiddle with meter & switch for a while, reach no conclusion. James comes
home, says his same window quit today too, "go for the wires, it's the
wires". But they are not a known failure item on the *passenger* door, I
say. He was fiddling with his in the hinge area and it went up, he says.
I pull back the accordion, and there are a couple wires with cracked
insulation there - but not separated. Poke & prod, window still not going
up no matter how many times I push on the switch. Jump it from the cig
lighter and whirr, up it goes. Must be the wires. Crap.
Tear apart the rest of the door, luckily I can almost do this in my sleep
by now. We are talking unplug all of the harness connections in the door
and lay the window frame on the ground, only the wires from the window
switch to the regulator are holding it to the car. Cover & motronic box
come off inside the car. Tug on the wires both ways, still don't see any
breaks. James has gotten out the shrinkwrap tube & big soldering iron
already, but I have to go hunt for the solder. Almost 9 by now.
I pick one of the three window wires, solder in a replacement, and hey, the
window goes up again! Yay, problem solved. Only 15 more wires to go, since
I might as well get them all while I'm in there. I'm going slow, goofing
around - like there is a ding in the door, and I notice I'm staring at the
backside of the door skin, so I try to smooth it out from the back. Better,
but not perfectly factory. It's 10, 11, 12.
Wires all done, window frame back on, wires all plugged back in, time for
the functional check. Mirror moves, no obviously blowing fuses (defroster
light still works), alarm meeps & door locks/unlocks. Except the window
doesn't go up anymore. Crap.
Pull off the driver's door pull and beep the wires to that switch - yup,
they both beep. Ground wires over there go to ground, yup. Both switches
seem ok, outer contact connected. Crap. Maybe it's the switch(es)? Anybody
had luck pulling them apart and using contact cleaner, or do they have
little springs and ball-bearings that shoot under the workbench when
opened? When you've got the hot soldering iron in your hand (thanks James)
every problem is a bad wire.
Might as well put the rest of the door on, the wires are certainly replaced
now. Struggle for a long time with the lock knob. It's 1am, getting tired.
Get the armrest put on and the motronic box under its cover. Check the
window again, it goes up this time. Hmm. Open and close the door a few
times, somehow the alarm arms even though the key is in the ignition (and
only armed when I used the key on the door before...
So it's now 2am, I open the door again of course, and the alarm goes off in
James' back yard. Wonderful. I run around the car to get the keys from the
ignition and use the driver's door to turn off the alarm. And hear a little
crunch as the team-doorhandle part breaks inside, lock cylinder is
connected to alarm but not latch, anymore. Crap. This means I get to open
up the driver's door next, again. At least the armrest is already off.
The windows are all up and I leave the switches alone, pull around to the
parking spot, and drive home in the
inutes GTI with cold manual A/C.
I do have an Audi climate control question, but will put that in another
post since nobody is going to be reading this all the way down here...
Feeling a little frustrated with the Audi gods,
1991 200 quattro, 110k, I'd like to have a few words with Team
1988 GTI 16v, 210k, still leaking p/s fluid but running on a good Bosch
voltage regulator once more, also need to have a word with the rebuild shop
that used the no-name one which lasted less than a year (replacing the
*original* OEM v/r AFAIK)
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