[200q20v] Problems again - on dead kitties

Glen Dustin Powell gpowell at ennovatenetworks.com
Mon Dec 4 08:43:48 EST 2000

Operation on US public roads without cats on a vehicle that came with them
from the factory would clearly be a violation of Federal law. I think the
fine for 'tampering' is $10,000. In fact, most any modification to the
exhaust system on a cat-equipped vehicle is a violation unless the mod &
parts specifically have a CARB exemption/approval number.




  -----Original Message-----
  From: 200q20v-admin at audifans.com [mailto:200q20v-admin at audifans.com]On
Behalf Of WARATAP at aol.com
  Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 12:38 PM
  To: fussball_3 at hotmail.com; C1J1Miller at aol.com; 200q20v at audifans.com
  Subject: Re: [200q20v] Problems again

  In a message dated 12/1/00 8:28:44 PM Eastern Standard Time,
  fussball_3 at hotmail.com writes:

    Since I havent talked to anyone who actually worked on the car, I am a
    unclear on whether this is exactly the problem. I am very disappointed
    they woll not even offer any help in this matter. Hopefully when I come
    will be able to clear things up, otherwise I will contact AoA. I do not
    the legality of driving without cats, I have never seriously considered
    having them, so I have not checked. Does anyone know the law in Michigan
    would be hard to enforce since there are no emission checks). No clue on
    codes since I have not talked with a mech, as I said.

                                      Hoping for an Audi before too long,

  Where in Michigan are you? I'm in the Detroit area. There are a few people
  who not only know these cars, but really appreciate them.  And if they
  at that dealership you've gone to, they've probably left to:

  a) start up their own shop


  b) Work for another reputable independent shop.

  They probably can't diagnose anything without OBDII!  Anyhow, you better
  cats on that baby (cause it is against the law in Michigan not to have
  on a car originally equipped with cats)  BIG FINE!!!  But I'm sure you got
  cats, (otherwise you can sue the place that supposedly put them on).
  assuming now you have cats:

  Have them empty the oil, refill to lower oil dipstick mark, and then
  diagnose.  The BIG problem with dealerships is they have a very high FLAT
  RATE (the Audi one closest to my house is $95/hr plus....) and they really
  only want to work on the newer cars.  Reputable independent shops will
  you maybe $150-200 for the diagnosis, applying that to the repair.

  '91 200 with a few mods...
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