[200q20v] Re: off-list reply re: UFOs

Bernie Benz b.m.benz at prodigy.net
Tue Aug 7 13:33:44 EDT 2001

Taka, Of course you're right.  Converting between UFOs and G60s is a major
parts replacement task.  Just bugging Phil.  But the UFOs do give more
stopping torque for the same pedel pressure.

To replace UFO pads one must remove the UFO rotor, but a very simple task,
documented in Bentley.


Bernie Benz
Gardnerville, NV

'90 90Q-20V  140K
'91 200Q-20V 140K 
Ford "Quatro" Tractor
Other Misc. Toys 
> From: t44tq at mindspring.com
> Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 14:51:29 -0400
> To: Bernie Benz <b.m.benz at prodigy.net>
> Subject: off-list reply re: UFOs
> Bernie,
> It is my understanding that even the Audi UFO conversion kit replaces the
> strut assemblies with the assemblies that are basically UrS4 assemblies for
> the G60 brakes. I don't believe it is that easy to switch back to UFOs from
> G60s.
> Have you had experience w/ UFOs? It seems like they are a major PITA to
> remove, even to replace pads- is this a mistaken assumption? I've never worked
> on my UFOs, yet, although I will have to when I make the switch to 996
> calipers over larger rotors.
> Taka
> Bernie Benz <b.m.benz at prodigy.net> wrote:
>> Hi Phil, 
> Hoses leaking or damaged?  Don't fix 'em if- - -.  Fat wallet?
> For the track, I'd switch back to the UFOs for 15% more braking torque, if
> you still have them.
> All rotors tend to wear true.  So don't screw them up by resurfacing.  Most
> resurfacing lathes are never serviced, BTDT, and the brake monkeys make
> money by machining yours undersize and selling new.  Rotor wear does not
> harden the remaining surface, and any new pad will quickly adjust to the
> rotor.  The full surface area of the pad is never in full, equal unit
> pressure, contact with the rotor anyway, because of changing pad and caliper
> deflections at differing applied piston braking forces.
> Regards,
> Bernie Benz
> Gardnerville, NV
> '90 90Q-20V  140K
> '91 200Q-20V 140K
> Ford "Quatro" Tractor
> Other Misc. Toys 
>> From: Phil Rose 
>> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 12:36:58 -0400
>> To: 200q20v at audifans.com
>> Subject: [200q20v] questions about brake hoses, pads...
>> I've decided it's time to replace my oem brake hoses. I considered a
>> set of braided-ss hoses but finally decided to use plain ol' oem
>> type. The Family Album shows the following  brake hose p/n info:
>> rear: 443 611 775F (M10x1.0x215)
>> Only this version of rear hose is shown, irrespective of whether for
>> the vented (as in our cars) or solid rotor setup in other models. I
>> assume this is correct?
>> front: 4441 611 707 (M10x1.0x250)
>> The data for the front hoses seems a little ambiguous as the picture
>> shows this hose along with a standard (non-UFO) brake rotor, but
>> doesn't explicitly mention the Girling G60 caliper that I have. Can
>> anyone tell me if this p/n and/or size is correct for the '91 200q
>> with converted (G60) brakes?
>> I'm thinking about using a set of "track" pads (up front) for the
>> Watkins Glen session later this month. I had installed new rotors
>> along with conventional street pads about 3  or 4 thousand miles ago.
>> Does it make sense to just swap in the track pads prior to the track
>> weekend, or must the rotors be resurfaced, considering the use
>> they've had? I've been told that new pads can't properly be bedded on
>> used rotors unless they (the rotors) have been skimmed to remove the
>> surface hardness. Comments? Suggestions for pads (G60)?
>> Thanks,
>> Phil
>> -- 
>> Phil Rose    Rochester, NY
>> '91 200q    mailto:pjrose at frontiernet.net
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