[200q20v] New title: Strut vs. Tower Braces for the 44 chassis

Bernie Benz b.m.benz at prodigy.net
Sat Aug 25 12:57:55 EDT 2001

Original subject: Re: [200q20v] RE: [BIRA] Digest Number 353

Greg, Taka, Tommy, et al.

Greg, if Tommy's referenced Tower Brace is the first strut brace that you've
seen for the 44 chassis you have not been lurking on the 200-20V list for
the past several years.  A year or 18 mo ago there was a very heated thread
on this subject lasting for about 6 months and involved about half the list.
This thread was started by my disclosure to the list of the Benz Brace, a
true strut brace rather than a strut tower brace.  The disclosure and
selected discussions are now documented on Chris Miller's site.  Further, a
list member has group fabricated to order the required special nuts.

IMO, a tower brace is inferior to a strut brace for my previously discussed
technical reasons.  Further, the referenced tower brace has several design
flaws.  First, the brace is not located on the strut to strut center line,
but several inches ahead of this ideal location.  Second, the mounting
brackets are not centered on the tube axis, a poor column design.  Third,
the mounting brackets are bolted to the tower sheet metal, why bother?

Tommy, better brakes have absolutely nothing to do with the reasons for
considering a strut brace.


Bernie Benz
Gardnerville, NV

'90 90Q-20V  140K
'91 200Q-20V 140K 
Ford "Quatro" Tractor
Other Misc. Toys 

> From: "TM" <t44tq at mindspring.com>
> Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 12:47:21 -0400
> To: "Greg Johnson" <gregsj2 at home.com>, <birabrakes at yahoogroups.com>
> Cc: "200q20v Mailing List" <200q20v at audifans.com>, "Quattro List"
> <quattro at audifans.com>
> Subject: [200q20v] RE: [BIRA] Digest Number 353
> Greg J,
> I've been in contact with Thomas Ehgartner via email.
> He sells them, I believe, along with some other choice bits.
> If there is interest in getting this or some sets of V8 all-red
> taillights, let me know- I'm willing to coordinate a group buy.
> Taka
> '91 200q
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Greg Johnson [mailto:gregsj2 at home.com]
> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 12:28 PM
> To: birabrakes at yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [BIRA] Digest Number 353
>> tommy.arnberg at nokia.com wrote:
>> Subject: With better brakes you need this .....
>> - it makes the car front stronger against vibrations and
>> body stress. Also the car body lasts longer
>> (the crom-moly steel pipe between A200 20V front struts:)
>> http://www.ehgartner-tuning.de/gif/Dsc00032_neu.jpg
>> rgs,
>> Tommy
> Very nice.   This is the first strut brace I've seen for the 200 20v.
> Where do you get them and how much do they cost?
> Greg J
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