[200q20v] 3 pin vs. 4 pin multifunction temp sender?
C1J1Miller at aol.com
C1J1Miller at aol.com
Tue Jan 2 10:34:38 EST 2001
Apparently the newer version (3 terminal) can fail as well... per Scott
"It has 2 other functions in addition to being the sending unit for the
coolant temperature gauge. It is appropriately called the
"Multi-Function" sending unit or Multi-Function Temperature sensor. Most
repair shops call them the "Multi-Mal-Function"
sensor, as they fail quite often and are not cheap to replace.
This sending unit can have 3 or 4 terminal connections, the original
sensor had 4 terminals and used +12V on terminal 3/+,
the later replacement sensors used 3 terminals and are made by Behr. The
original 4 terminal sensor was made by VDO and
is fairly complicated inside, and has a ceramic hybrid circuit board
with several active and passive electronic components.
Some wholesale parts houses still have some of the VDO 4 terminal
multifunction sensors available.
Fuse #12 supplies +12V to the Multi-Function Temperature sensor on the
original 4 terminal sensors, so check your fuses.
This fuse #12 also supplies +12V to the back up lights and to the
speedometer sending unit in the transmission.
The later 3 terminal version eliminated the requirement for +12V and is
mechanical in operation, as it uses a thermal
expanding pellet and 2 mechanical micro-switches for the 2 overheat
functions, and a regular Negative Temperature
Coefficient (NTC) resistive element for the coolant temperature gauge
operation. A NTC resistive element, has a decreasing
resistance with increasing temperature.
Unfortunately, the 3 terminal model fails after 2-3 years, and can fail
giving a false overheat warning condition. "
Mine's (3 terminal) been fine for 4+ years, 80k+ miles (great, it's going to
fail on the way home tonight...)...
In a message dated Tue, 2 Jan 2001 8:36:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, Bernie
Benz <b.m.benz at prodigy.net> writes:
<< Reliability is the only issue.
> From: Brett Dikeman <brett at pdikeman.ne.mediaone.net>
> Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 00:35:20 -0500
> To: Bernie Benz <b.m.benz at prodigy.net>, Steve Bednarski
> <stevebednarski at mindspring.com>
> Subject: Re: [200q20v] 3 pin vs. 4 pin multifunction temp sender?
> At 9:01 PM -0800 12/21/00, Bernie Benz wrote:
>> Yes, by all means! I've never had a "new" 3 pin sensor from my local AW
>> fail. Don't accept 4 pins, even if they agree to break one off.
> There is no functional difference between the two. Either is
> acceptable for use.
> Brett Dikeman Systems Engineer
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