[200q20v] 200tq vs. the A6 2.7T
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Wed Jul 25 01:47:53 EDT 2001
In a message dated 7/20/01 3:09:55 PM, i2k at uswest.net writes:
<< Hi Mitch,
If you've already posted this information to the list, pardon my asking, but
I'd be most grateful if you'd share your impressions.
I'm very curious as to the relative performance of your two cars, as I plan
to replace my '91 (with Hoppen chip and RS2 manifold) with a 2.7 A6.
However, I haven't driven one as I intend to keep the 200q for a while.
I'd love to know if the 200q feels slower, faster or just different. Thank
Kerry Leeds >>
Our two cars make for an "apples and oranges" comparison, given that the A6
is compromised with the Tip and standard suspension package. A better
comparison would be between the 2.7T with 6 speed manual and sport package
(which now includes stiffer springs/shocks and sport seats). The standard
seats don't hold you well in the hard turns like the 200tq's or the A6' sport
Prior to chipping the 200tq, I'd have given the 2.7T the slight edge in
acceleration. Although the 200tq had a 33 hp disadvantage, its lighter
weight(100 lbs) and stick shift just about made up for it. Now, the IA
equipped 200tq is much quicker, and more fun with the manual. The A6 is
smooooth, whereas the 200tq is a bit rough around the edges(mine especially).
The A6 is sooo composed. It's the kind of car in which you have to keep
your eye on the speedo on those long stretches of highway. A great road
tripper. Actually, both are great cruisers. I have a tender back, and both
these cars are completely comfortable on long trips.
You may have read a recent post over at the Audiworld/A6 forum, in which
several passes were made on the strip with two 2.7Ts. One with the stick and
the other with the Tip and GIAC ECU. The latter ran 5.48-5.78 0-60. Someone
on this list reported measuring a 5.44 0-60 in their IA Stage 3+ equipped
200tq. I'd say that the IA Stage 3 gets my 200tq to 60 under 6 seconds.
So, the straight line performance is pretty close to the Tip. Similar tuning
will net similar results. The chipped A6 2.7T makes between 315-330 hp and
approximately 350-360 ft/lbs of torque, so you can imagine what it will do
with the 6 speed. The stock 6 speed makes 0-60 in 5.9-6.0 seconds. Although
these cars aren't meant for stop light wars, these numbers give you an idea
how they compare.
Neither car is exceptional in the twisties with all that weight, although the
200 manages to somehow hang with my neighbor's E36 M3 in the local curves. I
used to drive an E36 325i, and that handled better than the 200, so my
neighbor must not be pushing his enough. The A6 comes equipped with crappy
Conti touring rubber wrapped around 16" rims. The wheel to fender gap is
SUV-like..what an oversight! The A6 exhibits quite a bit of body roll, and
the steering feedback is too light. IMHO, the 2.7T, being the sportier of the
A6 line-up, should come with a tighter, lower suspension, 17" rims and sticky
235/45-17 or 245-40-17 tires. Now if you optioned it with the above, the
sport package, 6 speed manual, then chipped it, the A6 2.7T would be
Most of the time I choose the 200tq when I go for a spin. If the A6 were
chipped, I'd probably still pick the 200 for its sleeper aspect. If the A6
were a 6 speed and chipped, I'd probably take it out most of the time.
'91 200tq IA Stage 3
'00 A6 2.7T
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