dkpriebe dkpriebe at
Wed Jun 12 00:36:10 EDT 2002

Those classifications are specific to the WWSCC (Western Washington Sports
Car Council) and they really are an over generalization of the SCCA
classifications. This was one of the reasons I was running in the Street
Tire class. Running in the WWSCC D Stock class the 200s are simply out
classed and don't stand a chance. The results from Street Tire are
handicapped based on the SCCA PAX, using the normal G Stock class. The other
Audis in G Stock are A4, A6, A8, UrS4, UrQuattro and the 5000.
Here is a link to the 2002 SCCA classes:
The cars that dominate G Stock are the Neons and the Nissan Sentra SE-R,
although it seems like there have been some Jettas and Golfs doing very
well. I still don't think the 200s have a  chance against those cars. There
is simply too much weight and too much body roll to handle the tight
courses. But then again, I'd like to see a really good driver out there in a
200. Having gotten better times than an Acura NSX, Honda S2000 and lots of
Miatas, I am now pretty aware that a large part of autocrossing is the skill
of the driver, and I not a good driver (yet). I don't imagine that I will
ever be truly competitive with the 200, but I surely won't be last.
It really is a blast to go flying around a bunch of cones in big parking
lot, without worrying about hitting anything, or doing any damage to my car
(well, tire and brake wear). Where else can I hear an anouncer say something
like, "Dave is wringing every thing he can out that STATION WAGON, and has
improved his time by a full second!" I highly recommend it to anyone who
hasn't tried it. It's a pretty inexpensive thrill. I haven't done any real
track time yet. So far, going 60 mph around a parking lot is satisfying my
need for speed.

Dave Priebe
Kenmore, WA
91 200tqa 155k his
95.5 S6 99k hers

----- Original Message -----
From: "TM" <t44tq at>
To: "'Derek Pulvino'" <dbpulvino at>; <200q20v at>
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 9:03 PM
Subject: RE: Autox'ing

> Derek-
> Those classifications are screwy- the SCCA classes make more sense and
> make for better parity across the nation.
> I don't know if you've autox'ed or driven both cars, but there is no way
> that a type 44 is keeping up with an A4 on an autox course. I know that
> in SM, our A4 w/ H&R coilovers, stock brakes, chip and exhaust will
> smoke
> my 200, even though I have a 70hp advantage, far better brakes and a
> much
> bigger footprint. Simply put, the car weighs 300lbs. less, has much less
> turbo lag and a far better chassis overall.
> I'm not going to argue w/ you about this- if I had a way to do it, I'd
> take both cars to the next autox and run both of them to see what times
> I could get w/ the same driver. I know the A4 would win, hands down.
> When you take the car to the track, it's different, but autox courses
> tend
> to be rather tight and are a major disadvantage to the type 44.
> Taka
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