New Member, Not a new Audi owner

Bernie Benz b.m.benz at
Wed Jun 12 21:59:40 EDT 2002

Not suprising.  I've always been a proponent of UFOs vs. G60s because of the
15% braking torque UFO advantage due to its larger rotor diameter, piston
area remains the same.  Paying for a real upgrade in braking torque and heat
capacity, as you are planning, can possibably be justified but paying for,
or even allowing Audi to to so to you for a down grade is beyoud my


> From: "Freed, David (Exchange)" <dfreed at>
> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 14:11:00 -0400
> To: "'Bernie Benz'" <b.m.benz at>
> Subject: RE: New Member, Not a new Audi owner
> I find that your opinion of the UFO "upgrade" is surprising.  Ultimately the
> UFO's are better but very few people can get them to brake smoothly and
> consistently.  And parts (and labor) are VERY expensive.  That's why it was
> changed under warranty.  I'm not happy with the brakes on my S4 either but
> when I used new rotors and pads both front and rear, I got a firm pedal with
> fairly strong stopping power.  I just wouldn't trust them at the track.  But
> that's why the S4 will be getting the Big Reds when the budget will allow
> it.  The 200TQW will probably remain mostly stock.
> Dave
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bernie Benz [mailto:b.m.benz at]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 1:48 PM
> To: Freed, David (Exchange)
> Cc: 200q20V mailing list
> Subject: Re: New Member, Not a new Audi owner
> Two comments, Dave.
> Audi's "fix" conversion from UFOs to G60s, IMO, was a downgrade, not an
> upgrade in braking performance.
> Rotary shaft seals:  If a seal is leaking and no other internal symptoms,
> shch as bad noises, add a half a can of engine seal restorer the rear end,
> and the other half into the tranny.  Of course this works on engine shaft
> seals also.  Don't fix it if it ain't broke!
> Bernie
>> From: "Freed, David (Exchange)" <dfreed at>
>> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 11:54:20 -0400
>> To: "'200q20v List'" <200q20v at>
>> Subject: New Member, Not a new Audi owner
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>> I just joined this mailing list because I just got a new (to me) '91 200
> TQ
>> Avant in Indigo Mica (I've corrected my previous error of Lago) with Grey
>> leather and 114,000 miles.  The body and interior are in excellent shape
> and
>> a previous owner had the UFO upgraded to S4 front brakes plus a Hoppen
> chip.
>> I've already received congrats from several list members because I also
> own
>> a '93 S4 and belong to the S-Car list.  I've include my original post to
> the
>> S-Car list as an introduction.
>> Here's my problem:
>> There is a leak coming from the Right Rear differential seal.  Is this a
>> common seal failure or a sign of internal wear that could cost big bucks?
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