tie rod seperated from end

Chris Locke clocke at audisport.com
Sun Mar 24 09:09:58 EST 2002

I'm very sorry I seem to have made some people upset.  No
threads.  The threads are what hold these two pieces
together.  A small welded seam no more than 1/16" deep will
not withstand the forces put upon it by trying to pull the
tie-rod from the tie-rod end with a 3200# car.  The heat
affected zone will harden and become brittle because these
two pieces are not designed to be welded along their axis.
I offer my humble apologies, however I will not retract my
opinion.  My advise is given only with the best thoughts of
the driver, his safety, and the safety of all others he
passes on the road as he drives his 20 miles home.  

Chris Locke
'91 2C20VTQ
'86 4kcstq

On Sat, 23 Mar 2002 19:39:14 -0800
 Bernie Benz <b.m.benz at prodigy.net> wrote:
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> You guys are being overly cautious in your advice,
> interspursed with much
> BS, IMO.  He didn't say that the threaded tie rod end was
> broken off, just
> that the threads were missing.  Rod still goes into the
> rod end.  Weld the
> SOB and drive 20 miles slowly, stop if it falls apart. It
> won't, even with
> little welding expertise.
> Bernie
> > From: "Chris Locke" <clocke at audisport.com>
> > Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 17:38:57 -0800
> > To: PeterBergin at aol.com, 200q20v at audifans.com
> > Subject: tie rod seperated from end
> > 
> > Last I knew, the end of the tie rod end (department of
> > redundancy department?) was tapered, and you're not
> going to
> > get a good weld anywhere there.  One part is hardened,
> the
> > other is not, and with a thin tie rod end, and trying
> to
> > weld it to a sturdy piece of round stock, I wouldn't
> trust
> > the weld at all.  You would be stressing the weld in
> the
> > wrong direction for strength.  I wouldn't push it.  If
> you
> > do go ahead and weld it, driving 20 miles isn't going
> to
> > hurt anything if it's not aligned properly.  Wear your
> front
> > tires a bit?  sure, but that's about it.  I think you
> said
> > the tie rod was rusted too, so there were no threads.
> You
> > can't "fill" a gap with a weld.  I do a considerable
> amount
> > of welding, if it matters, and this is one i'd steer
> clear
> > of (I couldn't resist that one!!!!)
> > Chris Locke
> > '91 2C20VTQ
> > '86 4KCSTQ
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