91 200 tq pricing - Reality training

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Tue Jan 28 07:56:06 EST 2003

Derek, the problem I have with your post is that even a quick jaunt to Kelly
or Edmunds doesn't support your "opinion".

Try Kellybuebook.com, or Edmunds.com, inputing both as "exceptional"
condition (rule #2 = there is no such thing - in fact, fyi, the blackout of
wood trim is a DEDUCTION, not an add):

Kelly shows the 91 200 with 150k as 5900 as RETAIL blue book.  Reminder,
Retail blue book is already a "clean" car.  That's "what to expect to pay
from a dealer".  That's also usually a private party "asking" price.  Retail
Blue Book is the price at the Dealer including profit.

Running Edmunds or Kelly, 150k (just like my early posts) grabs 1000USD from
Dan's pocket right away (vs selling at 100k).  Edmunds is a bit more brutal,
they are knocking at the 4500 RETAIL price point.

FYI, the trade/buying dealers use NADA Blackbook, which reflects ACV (Actual
Cash Value) - which is the value of your sheet metal at auction TODAY.  That
floats closer to the 3000USD range.  Dealers SELLING price is usually clean
Kelly Blue Book, there's the spread.

My conclusion stands:  Dan's 6000 ebay price reflected his car, with the mods
(desired or not) ADDING to the value of the car by over 1000USD.  IMO, and
the epinion of Kelly or Edmunds, he should have grabbed the money and ran.
Take off all the toys, he will lose a grand.  Sounds like a great hassle for
minimal returns.

Every car salesman goes thru this reality ck as part of his sales training
and will run into it within a week of being on the floor (btdt).  No one here
is buying Dan's car (his post, not mine), plenty have shown that the above is
pretty accurate in terms of "buyer" perspective.  I say get as much as you
can, and run.  I also say to a guy that's 1500 OVER exceptional blue book
retail "get real".  I'm....  Sorry?  Too much btdt I guess.


Scott Justusson

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