Personal Gain Retail Selling

Chaplen, John John.Chaplen at
Thu Mar 6 13:54:58 EST 2003

Thanks for being trusting at all. If it matters and you are pointing
fingers, I'm not making anything on the deal at all. I also resent the
implied though. I'm paying the same as everyone else except I'm not having
to pay for shipping since I'm picking mine up.

I guess this is the last time I will do any kind of GP. I though I was just
helping people out. Also making sure they got the correct parts. As I said
before I was not intending to do this, I was asking if someone wanted to
setup a GP. I had enough people ask me so I though that since many others
have done GP's in the past, and I have bought from them I would do my part.

And I think you need to wake up on the other side of the bed tomorrow..cuz
you have a bleak/negative outlook on life and other people.

Not all people are trying "screw" other people on the list.

NOTE to the people buying clutch kits!

And to make my point, if anyone who has joined the Clutch GP, I would be
happy to either return their money, or give them the number of the contact
directly. I don't want to post it to the list as this is a Mech. shop not a
parts distributor.

-----Original Message-----
From: QSHIPQ at [mailto:QSHIPQ at]
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 10:34 AM
To: quickdeuce at; 200q20v at; dans at
Cc: gregsj2 at; brett at; c_mihnea at
Subject: Re: Personal Gain Retail Selling

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I'll put in my .02.

ALL GP should be either on a separate list, or in Marketplace.  Why?  Cuz
it's a grey area, even those with the most pure of thoughts may be getting
personal gain (other business if he gets 6k worth of clutches, or his clutch
free, whatever), how can it be enforced or even known?  If a guy is setting
up GP to get his "widget" free, is that "personal gain"?

GP (I call them group gropes) don't reflect wholesale prices, rarely are
the "best" prices.  I've been tempted many a time to take GP pricing on
items, cuz I'd make good money using my shop discount. Instead, I figure if
that's what the qlists think is "value", then let it be.  All shops will be
dealing or already did with the issue of customer parts installs.

Now we are in a situation where a listmeister is trying to make a call on GP
vs personal selling.  Sorry, I see that line as being so fine, you ought to
just bag them all to Marketplace and stay out of the fray.  Picking Minhea
out for whatever he did, and NOT pick each and every "no personal gain"
with the same vengence, to me is pure BS.  The price of a chipset is 20 bux,
so anything over that is "personal gain"?  What about the GP of chipsets,
that goes back several years on these lists already?  Why bother thinking
about it Brett/Dan?

The easiest thing to do is direct them to marketplace.  The HARDEST thing to
do, is try to differentiate what is "personal" gain selling and what isn't.
Listmeisters have better things to do.

My .02 arbitraged thru the peso without personal gain.

Scott Justusson

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