Steer clear of Frams

Derek Pulvino dbpulvino at
Tue May 20 13:14:45 EDT 2003

I can add to this discussion.  A friend of mine had a problem with an
Automatic transmission leak.  On closer inspection turns out the external
oil filter on the transmission...a Fram...had developed a leak.  At the base
of the filter, where it screws on to the transmission, the outer filter case
had split, leaving a hairline, circumferential crack, that though small, was
visible, but under under pressure...

Well I think you know the rest, but the silver lining is he stopped driving
the car, and upon replacing the filter, and changing the oil, everything was
back working again.

In my book, Fram should definetely take some liabiity in cases like these,
but I guess I'm an idealist.

Derek P


Message: 3
Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 15:44:51 -0400
To: 200q20v at
From: Brett Dikeman <brett at>

Many of us on the main list have said this 'till we are blue in the
face, but people just never learn- another lister lost his
turbo-conversion 90 to a Fram filter.

The minuscule element is held together at top and bottom with
cardboard, and the filters usually lack BOTH a bypass valve and the
checkback valve, both of which are a requirement.  He's not the first
to have the filter collapse on him and munch an engine- so far two
other listers on the main list have echoed "happened to me too".

Mahle, Mann, Mobil 1- all are fine filters and have the features
necessary to keep your engine happy.  Fram filters are orange for a
reason- it means DANGER, DO NOT USE.

"They that give up essential liberty to obtain temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Ben Franklin


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