v8q at bellsouth.net
Thu May 22 00:27:09 EDT 2003
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As usual Bernie, you speak without knowing, and are incorrect. Indeed -
I wouldn't be surprised to find your eyes are brown.
92 up strut mounting plates and the and the camber adjustment are
redesigned. The ECS strut mount plate and their redesigned spring perch
allow double the adjustment you speak of, and at the same time equalize
the preload on the spring. My 92 had the exact mod you describe
performed by no less than John Buffam a few years back, and it wasn't
enough. We even verified during the first try at alignment that the
stock plate was at its full travel out and had nowhere else to go.
It now has perfect alignment - and that is exactly in the center of the
allowable alignment travel with the new plates.
The 2Bennett plates are an even more elegant solution - but also must be
used with the redesigned 92 plates specifically because of the larger
center hole. Based on a Ford Mustang racing design it not only allows
dramatically increased camber correction, but can also adjust caster. I
didn't go with this design because of the increased cost and failure to
correct the preload issue.
Unlike you, I fully investigate and research what I am going to do with
my cars. You decide how it should be done, lock in and harangue everyone
to do it your way. Got ahead and hack your car - Not interested.
Bernie Benz wrote:
>You are perpetuating a fat wallet myth, also aiding and abetting those
>questionable firms you mentioned who are, among other things, selling rip
>off "camber plates"!
>The Audi camber adjustment moves the top of the strut within the upper fixed
>upper strut mounting plate, without moving this plate, by means of a slotted
>camber plate bolted thereto. This camber plate includes the rubber isolator
>and its movement can not be further extended without strut interference with
>the internals of the upper spring perch and strut tower.
>These rip off aftermarket "camber plates" that you tout are not camber
>plates by the above description. They are redesigned upper strut mounting
>plates, which allow movement of the whole top of the strut/spring assembly,
>not just the strut within the spring.
>None of these rip-off "camber plates", regardless of design, can move the
>strut assembly beyond its point of interference between the top spring perch
>and the sturt tower. This movement is limited to about <1/4", which is
>easily achieved using the stock upper strut mounting plate by slotting the
>mounting holes in the strut tower in this amount. This can be done in situ,
>by dropping the strut assy, several inches and filing the tower holes in the
>outward direction. BTDT.
>>From: David Head <v8q at bellsouth.net>
>>Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 20:00:58 -0400
>>To: Steven Hauptmann <hauptmanns at llr.sc.gov>
>>Cc: "200q20v List (E-mail)" <200q20v at audifans.com>
>>Subject: Re: Alignment problem
>>This is right at normal for a lowered car. You can do ECS camber plates
>>for about 325.00, 2Bennett plates at 500.00, or the Igor mod at time
>>plus bucks and access to equipment. For some reason the driver's side is
>>After installing the ECS plates on my 92 V8 (Eibach/Bilstein) the
>>alignment came in spot on - my 90 V8 (H&R/Bilstein) has always been out
>>-1.2 and -.5... It will get them next...
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