NAC -- New York State Geography Primer

David Schaible dschaible at
Fri Apr 23 12:59:48 EDT 2004

we here in the hudson valley, (new paltz)  call albany & north 
"upstate"   and you phil, are on the western tier, not upstate, much more 
ohio or pennsyltucky than NY

At 03:47 AM 4/22/04 -0400, TooManyAudis at wrote:
>P.S. Please don't be insulted, we don't even consider Poughkeepsie as
>Phil Rose
>Rochester, NY
>mailto:pjrose at
>In my youth, my parents sold many weekend and vacation homes to
>self-proclaimed "Real New Yorkers" (those from the city, that is). To 
>them, "Upstate" is
>anywhere north of where the subways run.  Rochester is in Canada.
>-- Tom Werner
>Native of Copake, NY (about 40 miles more upstate than Poughkeepsie)
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