Why GP's are bad?

Dave Kase desmo888 at comcast.net
Fri May 14 21:09:55 EDT 2004

Group buys bad?   Ha Ha

Business is a business my friend.  The guy who knows how to sell stuff will
get the sales, period.  I deal with this every day as an engineer in the
commercial lock industry.

 I have organized and will continue to organize Audi part group buys.  The
group buy only goes off if the seller is willing.  I will ALWAYS buy
something from the source who supplies it less expensively.  For crying out
loud most of us drive 10 plus year old cars, do you think we are made of

BTW, ask Billzcat if he likes GB's.

Dave Kase aka cheap bastard and deal worker
1990 Coupe Quattro

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <SuffolkD at aol.com>
To: <200q20v at audifans.com>; <Q at IntendedAcceleration.com>;
<quattro at audifans.com>
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: Why GP's are bad?

> Ned:
> 1.  Can you please explain why the GP is bad for the Audi community?
> 1a.  From your explanation you say future development is hurt by the GP
> concept:  How so?
> I as the buyer, (my look) is that a volume pricing discount moves more
> product for the distributor / manufacturer.
> While the distributor chain (profit) may suffer in your example, I suspect
> purchase due to the original pricing would have been more beneficial?
> 2.  Is a GP detrimental to overstock inventory?
> The manufacturer who produces more "product" usually sells more.
> If the vendor can't sell the product, then there is no demand for it next
> year FROM THAT vendor.
> This example doesn't reflect what may be the real (no demand next year)
> problem:..........TOO HIGH of a price to the customer.
> I wanted the "best" chip for a 200 20V and sought out your product first.
> But the price was more than I could afford, so, no chip for me.
> Then I bought one a year later as part of a GP and with some work on my
> I got a chip, with performance I desired.
> With all due respect, I seem to read your post and correlate that's the
> reason why you didn't respond to my GP chip inquiry in 2002 and why
several of us
> sourced them elsewhere in 2003.
> I expect your IA chip is the best out there, so please don't misunderstand
> inquisitive questions.
> Respectfully submitted - Scott by BOSTON
> Ned  wrote>>>>
> > Now a NOTE TO ALL:
> > While I have participated in group purchases as the supplier of the part
> > I now believe that the group buy concept does not help the Audi
> > owners/vendors group as a whole.  While in the short term the supplier
> > looses and the owner wins NO ONE WINS in the end.  Since the Audi group
> > is really a small group of people and small businesses it reduces the
> > ability for vendors as a whole to produce new parts and have viable
> > businesses.  Then the owners loose.  I've talked to other vendors about
> > this and speaking from experience there are several neat trick
> > performance parts I CHOSE NOT TO MANUFACTURE because one year there was
> > a group buy that messed with our cash flow.  ALL THE AUDI OWNERS LOST!
> > I don't think anyone excited about a group buy ever thinks about this
> > bigger picture.  I know I didn't.
> >
> > In summary: Group Buys are not good for the Audi community, and now you
> > know how many vendors are now feeling about those who promote them.
> >
> > Ned Ritchie
> >
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