strange multiple brake hyd failures

Kneale Brownson kneale at
Sun Aug 28 06:37:15 EDT 2005

Could these all be original hoses?  I just had a rear brake hose failure on
one of our V8s in which braking worked normally going on an errand and was
mushy on the return.  Hose just failed/looked burst or ripped.  Other side
looked well weathered and broke when flexed after I took it off too.
Neither looked bulged when I changed from winter to summer tires in April
and did my current usual brake/wheel "service" which includes a fluid flush
and running a thread chaser through the lug threads.  My fall exchange to
winter tires will include new hoses for all the cars that haven't had hoses
replaced in my records.  Our V8s are in the 150K miles range and the
200q20v has 235K.  

At 10:28 PM 8/27/2005 -0700, David Glubrecht wrote:
>Pertinent history   200q20v   170k miles
>Stock brake system (UFO) , replaced pads a couple of weeks ago.
>replaced power steering hose (pressure side) at the same time.
>I had both front wheels off last week (before a 700 mile trip) to repair the 
>brake pad sensors so the auto-check will read OK. I noticed no problems.
>two days ago I drove the car around the corner and parked the car at the 
>edge of the road.  My wife drove the car back and claims the car drove
perfectly normal.
>Today I get in it to wash it and the clutch petal snaps to the floor.
>I think "great, don't want to replace the clutch master and slave"
>Put the car in gear and start it and find very little (rear only) brakes 
>with the petal to the floor.
>I pull the car in the garage and put brake fluid in it and find it running 
>out of SEVERAL places!
>I find a total of 4 failures any one of which wouldn't be a big deal.
>1. Drivers brake line (flex rubber hose) is burst and almost ripped in two.
>2. Pass brake line (same) is burst and ripped in two!
>3. Pass anti lock wires are ripped in two.
>4. Clutch rubber hose is burst.
>Pass side could be explained by a stick or piece of metal getting caught and 
>ripping both lines.
>Drivers side looks like a fairly normal failure, but all this happened while 
>Clutch looks like a hose failure, but I have these hoses fail.
>None of the hoses looks cut or signs of anything sharp cut them.

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