windage tray in oil sump

DeWitt Harrison six-rs at
Sun Jan 23 18:37:34 EST 2005

My intent is to track the car a few times a year at various
club events. I agree the Type 44 is a bit of a dog these days but
I still enjoy the process of tweaking it here and there. And it's
kind of fun to surprise some of the new car owners with an old
beast that's pretty quick for its age. I actually did have an oil
leak to deal with so this may not be an entirely fruitless effort.

I have heard rumors of oil starvation in the 3B and the 3B is
surely an improvement over the MC. I'm unclear as to the
exact cause. In any case, my goal is to eliminate that issue "as long
as I'm there." So far, trial fittings of the S4 windage tray seem
to indicate that it will work. Then again, I don't have all the
3B parts yet. I will report back in a few weeks after the
next round of parts ordering. If anyone can direct me toward
Alex Neckas, I'd sure like to get his btdt on this.

Thanks, Taka, and thanks gentlemen.

DeWitt Harrison
'88 5ktq

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Taka Mizutani" <t44tqtro at>
To: "Kneale Brownson" <knotnook at>
Cc: "DeWitt Harrison" <six-rs at>; "Audi_91_20V"
<200q20v at>
Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: windage tray in oil sump

> I actually attempted to have an UrS4 windage tray installed in my
> former '91 200q. However, my mechanic insisted that the oil pickup
> would not clear the windage tray unless you cut away a bunch of the
> tray, making it worthless. Because of this complication (contrary to
> what a bunch of people on the list have told me), I was not able to
> install said windage tray.
> The 3B comes with a windage tray as well, but it's not as large as the
> one off of the UrS4. I know that Alex Neckas came up with something
> that allowed for the 3B and UrS windage trays to be installed together
> and did some further modification to the oil pan so that oil
> starvation would not occur on his 3B powered 4ktq. He would not
> elaborate any further because apparently 2Bennett or someone does this
> mod and charges (obviously) for it.
> That said, I have not had any oil starvation issues while tracking the
> 200, although I had not really tracked the car that hard.
> What is your intent with this addition? If you are not tracking the
> car hard and regularly, I would not bother- it's not worth it unless
> you have an oil pan leak and have to drop the pan for a different
> reason. That said, IMHO, a type 44 is a lousy track car. Benign, but
> lousy.
> Taka

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