Burning Oil?

Patrick Anderson patrick.anderson1 at comcast.net
Sat Oct 7 01:32:54 EDT 2006

As for idling in traffic causing a little smoke. I had that symptom and by 
replacing the exhaust valve guides I fixed the problem. From what I hear, 
the intake guides don't go bad as quickly as the exhaust ones.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Derek Pulvino" <dbpulvino at hotmail.com>
To: <eric.huppert at us.army.mil>; <Jeff.Bernstein at pneumaticscale.com>
Cc: <200q20v at audifans.com>
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:36 AM
Subject: RE: Burning Oil?

> Eric,
> From what you described (smoke on startup and when running cold) it looks
> like we're having a different thing going on.  While I do get some smoke
> sometimes right at "startup," or when the cars is cold, the problem I
> encountered the other day happened after the car sat and idled in traffic
> for upwards of a half-an-hour.  The "cold" smoke is what I'd say is 
> typical
> for a relatively rich running cold-start car.  The other "startup" smoke
> usually occurs when restarting a warm car after it's sat for half an hour 
> to
> an hour.  I've never had the oil burning/smoking condition that I 
> described
> the other day happen outside of the "idleing a warmed up car for more than
> 10-15 minutes in traffic" situation.  Again that's only happened three
> times, and again every time it was after idleing in shitty Seattle traffic
> for longer than normal periods of time.
> And your oil conusmption is substantially more favorable than mine...I'm 
> at
> a quart/500-miles or so.
> Derek P
>>Bought the car in early May, put almost 12k on it since then. At the time 
>>was commuting 160 rt plus normal everyday runs!
>>Previous owner (ebay deal!) stated the car had sat for about six months 
>>didn't have this issue prior. Upon picking it up i worked on it for 
>>weeks clearing up vacuam line issues and all the other typical 44 problems
>>(to include TB and WP). Fairly well sorted out now, excepting the smokey
>>situation. (Now i just need to install the chips i got from Ben S.!)
>>Oil consumption is less than a quart over 3 to 4k. Car has almost 230K so
>>overly concerned with losing a quart! No oil leaks..
>>Little difficult to bite my tongue on the oil overfill comment. Was a
>>mechanic by trade (2 yr degree), still do my own work at home. Third type
>>sold my chipped 87 5000 to my son with almost 400k, my 90 200TQ i still
>>with almost 320k... Rehabbed a 5000 for one of my sons that i'd bought as 
>>parts car with a supposed bad trans, turned out to be a simple linkage
>>issue...  But, thinking i did give limited info for you to work
>>Posted this problem quite some time ago... Only smokes when cold, once 
>>there's no smoke. No smoke on decel/back on the throttle. So, smoke is not
>>vacuam dependent. Had pulled the mm house and ic after it was smoking, no
>>great amount of oil present. If it was the cold side i would have seen 
>>oil. If it was the seals it woud most likely leak all the time.
>>As previously stated, need to get it loaded up at idle and pull the down
>>and or turbo and see if there's any telltale signs... (probably should do
>>soon, NY is getting a little cooler and it's a PITA to work in the 
>>Cheers, Eric
>>From: Bernstein, Jeff (PSC-Akron)
>>[mailto:Jeff.Bernstein at pneumaticscale.com]
>>Sent: Thu 10/5/2006 12:27 PM
>>To: Huppert, Eric
>>Cc: Derek Pulvino; b.benz at charter.net; 200q20v at audifans.com
>>Subject: Burning Oil?
>>You don't mention how long you have had your problem and you don't mention
>>how much oil consumption you are having so I can't say if your problem is
>>related to what Derek is experiencing.  If your problem is fairly recent
>>no noticeable oil consumption then I would suspect that you may have your
>>level too high.  Having the oil level too high will give you the exact
>>symptoms that you are describing.  This is common situation especially
>>changing the oil and is easily solved by draining some oil out of the
>>Jeff B.
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