New lister, new car

Paul DAnneo padanneo at
Wed Nov 7 09:23:22 PST 2007

Actually Bernie I did put heat to it for a while. Propane torch may not have gotten it hot enough. Still broke an easyout. 
  The pan is fairly smooth and with a copper crush washer I have prevented any leakage. Also allowing me to remove it again when I get my fumoto valve.
  I used my old plug from my Urs4, saved from the fumoto valve replacement.

Bernie Benz <b.benz at> wrote:
  Paul didn’t say that the threads were buggered up. He said that the 
plug came out easily after he ground off the plug’s head, the flange 
face seal. But he may have buggered up the pan’s face sealing 
surface. A simple fix for this would be to 45 degree counter sink 
the surface to accept an O-ring on a new stock plug.

The better way to remove such a frozen plug is with heat. Same system 
as removing a broken stud from a head.
Build up the buggered hex head with a TIG or MIG welder until large 
enough to get a vice grip on it. The weld heat will have loosened the 
frozen plug or stud.


On Nov 7, 2007, at 6:58 AM, Nathan Winters wrote:

> If the threads are already buggered up, what solutions are there?
> Next size up drill / tap?
> Go to NPT?
> Thanks,
> Nathan
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Kneale Brownson 
> To: Paul DAnneo 
; 200q20v at
> Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2007 8:12:31 PM
> Subject: Re: New lister, new car
> Stock HP of the 200q20v is 217.
> Many of us have switched to Fumoto drain valves to avoid plug 
> thread
> problems.
> There is a relay that keeps the windows/sunroof powered after you
> turn off the key until you open a door.
> Cooling fan should go on whenever you turn the climate control to
> Auto, which engages the A/C.
> You should get a Bentley if you're going to do any services 
> yourself.
> If not, make sure the mechanic has one.
> Paul DAnneo 
> Hello All,
> Just reciently sold my '93 Urs4 and bought a '91 200q20v. Pearl white
> and platnum sport interior. Drivers seat torn.(need one. I'll list in
> marketplace.)
> This car is a bit lighter than the Urs4. A bit quicker also. 250 hp,
> correct?
> The cars been sitting for +-2yrs. I literally had to grind the head 
> off
> the drain plug as the flange was welded to the pan. I broke 2 
> easyouts
> before the flange was completely gone. Once the flange was gone the
> plug came out easy. Thanks goodness for Napa's lifetime warranteed 
> tools.
> 1 bent rim(also need), 3 seperated tires. Odo reads 89k. Head gasket
> leak to cooling system. New (now) windshield. Aftermarket pos cd 
> player.
> All speakers still powered and sound good. Cruise doesn't work, 
> nor the
> abs.
> Just a few q's.
> Any fix for the bouncy speedo? Seems the computer thinks the car won't
> go faster than 15 mph.
> The headlights inner lens; bulb is 5 watts? Just a parking light? I've
> got a fog light switch, but seems no fog lights, front or rear.
> Power seems to always be on in the interior. Windows and sunroof 
> always
> powered. Abbynormal? Interior lights go out normally.
> Also cooling fan goes on when the climate control system is going. 
> Turn
> off the climate control and the cooling fan goes off. Put it on auto
> when the car is warming up and when the heater kicks in the 
> cooling fan
> starts. Seems quirkey.
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