snow tires

Schaible, David David.Schaible at
Tue Oct 9 06:13:52 PDT 2007

I used the green diamond tires last year as an alternative to studs for
the last few can research them but the quick skinny on them
is they have carbide chips imbedded all the way through the tread so as
they wear they still have good grip, they tested better than the
studless and about equivalent to a studded tire w/ 8k on them.......i
thought the snow & ice handling was excellent, road kinda sucked...soft
sidewall on the model I had. If you are not autocrossing or going crazy
I would recommend them.....although you Montana boys have a rep for
longggg runs at higgghhhh speeeeds.....i don't remember a speed rating
on mine...only had them over 100mph a few times. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jani Lundqvist [mailto:jl_76 at] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 5:15 AM
To: Mike Miller; 200 20v List
Subject: RE: snow tires

I used X-ice for the last two winters up here in Finland. Have no
complaints, quiet, and well gripping tyre. A bit soft perhaps, that I'm
sure has more to do with the high profile, mounted on 15" wheels. I paid
400 euros for a set, so $411 doesn't sound too bad. 
Going to need new tyres for the coming winter, I'll have to look the
latest results of the wintertyre test and then make my mind. Before
X-ice I had Nokian Q (also studless) and they were OK tyres as well, a
bit louder than Michelin, but both choices I can recommend.
"It's not that I'm so smart, it's just that I stay with problems
longer." - Albert Einstein 

> From: mikemilr at> To: 200q20v at> Subject: snow
tires> Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 10:08:38 -0600> > I've been running studs
here in Montana the last several years but I only > get 15-20k miles out
of them ( 2 seasons). My driveway is snow covered from > Nov thru March
usually, is about 3000 feet long and gains about 400 ft in > elevation -
you do not want to slide off it. Last winter I chained up > several
times to go down the driveway when it was icy so the studs weren't >
really helping much.> > I'm thinking of trying studless snows this
winter as I need to buy tires > again. Costco has a sale on Michelin
X-Ice ($411 out the door). Does anyone > have any experience/opinions on
those?> > mike > > _______________________________________________>
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