favorite - strut/shock/spring combo?

Bernie Benz b.benz at charter.net
Thu Jul 10 06:46:10 PDT 2008

Displeased? No, just bowing out of an overly worn thread.

Dampening means to moisten. Damping is the friction applied to a  
resonant spring / mass system.

On Jul 9, 2008, at 9:12 PM, robert weinberg wrote:

> i'm confused - why are you displeased?
> i did listen to you - i'm no longer looking at konis and H&R  
> springs - which would make the car overly aggressive (as my SHO  
> was). i'm researching used 1992 URS4 springs or V8 springs. the  
> reason i mention bilsteins sports - is because they are much  
> cheaper than konis. boge are the same price virtually as bilsteins  
> - and are close to stock in dampening, no?
> i believe you are saying that even with URS4 springs, the bilsteins  
> have too much rebound unless i go with a much more aggressive  
> spring, like H&R or Eibach? and then the car would ride like a  
> rickshaw?
I’m saying no such thing! I have no idea what you mean by a more  
aggressive spring. Shocks don’t have rebound, they control rebound.  
For a given unsprung weight, the shock must be matched to the spring  
rate. This match, “critical damping” is that in which the unsprung  
weight returns to its SRH at zero velocity in the shortest possible  
time. In an under damped system the weight overshoots the SRH and  
bounces the wheel off the pavement. In an over damped system the  
wheel is slow to return to SRH and thus the system is ill prepared to  
receive the next bump in a timely manner (that Bilstein feel). More  
theory than you ever wanted to know, or are capable of applying?

> Robby
> --- On Wed, 7/9/08, Bernie Benz <b.benz at charter.net> wrote:
>> From: Bernie Benz <b.benz at charter.net>
>> Subject: Re: favorite - strut/shock/spring combo?
>> To: centaurus3200 at yahoo.com
>> Cc: "200q20V mailing list" <200q20v at audifans.com>
>> Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 8:30 PM
>> Not so, Robby! Apparently you don’t believe or understand
>> a thing
>> that I’ve added to this thread. You are polling for
>> fellow non
>> believers. You want it all! A non believer in simple
>> physics, but
>> money can buy everything! Go of it, boy.
>> Bernie
>> On Jul 9, 2008, at 5:50 PM, robert weinberg wrote:
>>> very true bernie,
>>> i guess my thing is i need a poll of people and their
>> experiences.
>>> bilsteins are a fair amount cheaper than konis. if i
>> can get
>>> acceptable ride and still be able to joyfully fling it
>> around with
>>> bilsteins and V8 springs compared to blowing $789 for
>> konis and H&R
>>> springs, i'm all for it.
>>> again, i MAY track the car at some point - like once
>> just to see
>>> how it does - but it's a big ass sedan, it's
>> not a track car. it's
>>> meant to tear up the highway and the occasional
>> mountain road.
>>> Robby
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