handbrake question

Schaible, David David.Schaible at jrspharma.com
Mon Mar 3 06:37:38 PST 2008

I guess on snow you should wind up locking them all up......i've never seen it done and I can't see my own wheels....i've never seen anyone try to tow a torsion quattro by lifting one set of wheels either (without disconnecting the driveshaft) but I thought it would go for a while and then disintegrate the center diff.....although I also thought that the torsion actually freewheels when there is no torque applied.....if you were truly bad ass maybe you could throw it in neutral do your ebrake maneuver, back in 2nd and stomp it through

-----Original Message-----
From: Geraint Lloyd [mailto:geraintlloyd_qc at yahoo.ca] 
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 7:10 AM
To: 200q20v at audifans.com
Subject: RE: handbrake question


Just to point out the obvious omission from my previous post,

It's on snow

My main question was really what would the torsen do with locked back
Would it assume that the back axle had all of the grip and send it all the
Would it lock the front and back together

The speedo feed to the diff has got a relay on it so it can be connected and
disconnected at will
I call this the "Mr & Missus mode switch".

I recently had a conversation with my 7 year old son about his skiing
I suggested that he did not look at the trees, but the gaps between them.
Same applies with lampposts in car parks and I have not hit one since 1992.


From: Mike Miller [mailto:mikemilr at blackfoot.net] 
Sent: 02 March 2008 20:34
To: Geraint Lloyd; 200q20v at audifans.com
Subject: Re: handbrake question

Would seem to me that by applying the brakes, the weight should shift
forward, and assuming you have the steering wheel turned enough to still be
getting traction and not just plowing, the backend should pop out and by
applying the accelerator, the front should pull you through the turn. I'd
release the hand brake as soon as the rear starts to swing. In a 91 200q,
unless you have unplugged the speedo, you cannot lock the rear diff above
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Geraint Lloyd 
To: 200q20v at audifans.com 
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 5:59 PM
Subject: handbrake question

Some of you will know that I have a thing abouthandbrakes and at least one
of you is becoming converted to my deep-rooted beliefsystem.

But being as I’m still getting the hang of thistorsen Quattro thing, I
have a quick question:


To set the scene:

1. Audi 1989 200 TQA (only a 10v, but for this questionit might also be a


2. Approach hairpin bend (or retail park lamppost atnight when no-one is
looking) at say 35mph with rear diff locked in 2nd


3. Apply brakes and lock in an approximation of whatpeople say you have to
do to initiate a pendulum turn.


4. Decide that the arse end is not swinging out enoughand grab a fistful of
handbrake whilst stamping on the accelerator


What SHOULD happen next?










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