knealeski at sbcglobal.net
Mon Sep 1 14:33:00 PDT 2008
Just a couple notes on starter replacement. I've found on the 200q20v I can get to that trusty rusty large power connection with a swivel socket so you can use extensions to get to enough room to swing a ratchet at least half a turn.
I always clean up the mounting hole area mechanically and with brake cleaner and add a bit of dielectric grease because that's where the starter grounds.
Phil Rose <pjrose at frontiernet.net> wrote:
After a year of worrying about my wimpy sounding starter (not overly
long cranking times, just a weak-sounding "crank"), the starter
suddenly called it quits last week. I'd been suspecting a weak
battery (although no other signs of that being the case) or possibly
that notorious cable splice-under-the-carpet issue. My sudden
"no-start" problem was a failure of the starter to crank at
all--complete silence when the ignition key was turned. The DVM at
the battery terminals and at the jumper post gave identical readings
(about 12.45 volts), so I ruled out the splice problem. Measuement of
voltage at the end of the ignition wire and at the field wire showed
that 11+ volts was getting to the starter when the key is turned.
Finally, a good 12V source applied to the starter failed to generate
Conclusion: Time to "replace what had broke" (i.e., my 18 yr-old starter)
A local parts supply stocked the official, genuine Bosch
Remanufactured-in-Germany (not merely "rebuilt", says Bosch) for
$135. Seemed a reasonable price for the "real deal".
As others have mentioned, the basic R&R is pretty straightforward.
However the sticking point in removing my old starter was the highly
corroded power cable stud/bolt. Even with lots of P-Blaster applied,
the nut seized up with several threads left to go. As many of you
know, there's precious little room to turn a wrench (or use a saw or
a torch), and I wearily spent hours lying beneath the car trying to
get those heavy cables off the old starter so it could be pulled out.
The old stud finally snapped in two, and the job went quickly from
that point on. One item to note is that this particular replacement
starter had a very short stud for attaching the power cables (half as
long as the original); hence it was necessary to *not* re-use the
old, thick plastic spacer (used a single 8 mm nut and washer to hold
down the pair of cable lugs).
I also spliced in a new spade connector and a few inches of 10-gauge
wire even though the old (red) ignition wire was actually in pretty
good condition. Reconnected the battery and ol' Lago cranked with
strong, reassuring sound and fired up faster than it ever has in the
past 10 yrs. I've been dreading the need to replace the ignition
switch, but this time managed to duck that bullet...
Phil Rose.....Rochester, NY USA
'06 A3q 3.2 V6 (17K, silver) Judy's
'00 A6q 2.7 biturbo 6-spd (120K, black) Marc's
'91 200q (165K, Lago blue) mine
Gone to Audi Valhalla:
'91 200q (Tornado red)
'89 100 (Bamboo gold)
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