Brake fittings (conections to front UFO flex hose) frozen,

kneale at kneale at
Tue Jan 13 05:26:44 PST 2009

Why would I consider a flexible brake line blowout a possibility?  I've had
two occur while in traffic, leaving me to get home with NO brakes. 
Thankfully, it was not under load.

Your advocacy of neglecting important vehicle control parts in favor of
fixing squeaks with hypodermic needles is ridiculous.

Nobody's talking about replacing all systems every 10K miles.  Timing belt
replacement is multiple times that amount.

Original Message:
From: Bernie Benz b.benz at
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:25:04 -0800
To: kneale at, 200q20v at
Subject: Re: Brake fittings (conections to front UFO flex hose) frozen,

And just why would you think that is a likely possibility? Your  
current policy is likewise flawed. You should jack up the horn and  
drive a new car under it every 10K, screw the oil change!

On Jan 12, 2009, at 4:12 PM, kneale at wrote:

> So he's supposed to wait until a sudden stop blows out a brake hose  
> and
> then try to fix it on the side of the road?  Unless, of course, he  
> runs
> into something.
> My current policy is to replace all four flex lines every time I do a
> timing belt.
> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From: Bernie Benz b.benz at
> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 07:12:16 -0800
> To: alancordeiro at, 200q20v at
> Subject: Re: Brake fittings (conections to front UFO flex hose)  
> frozen,
> Alan,
> Why are you trying to break this connection, leaking flex line? If
> not leaking, don’t fix it!
> Bernie
> On Jan 11, 2009, at 10:25 PM, <alancordeiro at> wrote:
>> I spent a frustrating two days waiting for penetrating fluid to do
>> its work, but as of tonight, I have still not succeeded in
>> separating either of the two fixed lines from the flexible rubber
>> hose on the driver's front wheel.
>> After jacking up the car, I pre treated the fittings with liquid
>> wrench and waited a few hours before attempting to open. When they
>> would not budge, I kept adding the penetrating fluid spray and
>> waited overnight to try again. as of this afternoon and evening, I
>> have only manager to round off the upper nut, and partially round
>> off the lower nut, with my 11 mm flare wrench. I even used a
>> vicegrip on the upper nut, but they both seem to be welded to the
>> intermediate flex hose. Besides Liquid wrench, I also used PB
>> Blaster, and as small amount of heat.
>> I have put back the wheel and parked the car outside....awaiting
>> some BTDT advice from this group, thanks.
>> (Patient is a '91 200q with the original hose and UFO calipers, I
>> believe the fittings have never been opened since they were
>> assembled at the factory, unless the previous owner did them in the
>> first seven years and 100k.)
>> Alan Cordeiro
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