No start after TB????We Got Fire!!!!
mike at urq20v.com
Fri Oct 23 05:24:38 PDT 2009
How could you be that far off if nothing moved during the TB
You were able to turn the crank 180 degrees without any valves hitting?
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: No start after TB????We Got Fire!!!!
> From: Kneale Brownson <kneale at knitknacks.com>
> Date: Thu, October 22, 2009 10:52 pm
> To: 200q20V mailing list <200q20v at audifans.com>, quattro at audifans.com
> Upon the insistence of one of my advisers on this task, who maintained
> the backfire meant the crank was 180 degrees out of time with the
> camshaft, I went through the painful process of realigning as
> suggested. I found I could loosen the waterpump bolts just enough to
> slide it into the loose belt position without leaking coolant. I think
> the fact I coated the block and seal with a compatible grease before
> installing the pump helped a lot. Once reassembled, with the auxiliary
> radiator back in place, I fired right up.
> However, I did fail in my efforts to seal up the intake. The gasket
> between the throttle body and intake manifold looked smooth and so I
> thought I'd be OK by just cleaning everything up. First chance to get
> beyond maybe 1.3 boost, I got the big hit. Guess I'll have to strip
> the old gasket off and apply a new one. No time now because I'm already
> a week late in getting to Colorado, where we're heading tomorrow.
> Anyway, thanks to all who helped suggest solutions to my troubles.
> This has been a real ordeal for me. Sunday, the 11th, I fell off the
> doorsill to my tractor cab, landing on my back five feet below. I've
> had broken rib-type pain in my chest ever since. X-rays showed nothing,
> but every move of my torso has been a sharp jab. First couple days I
> couldn't do anything, and I originally was scheduled to leave last
> Thursday. If I hadn't already taken the front off the car before my
> fall, I wouldn't have done the timing belt in this circumstance.
> Kneale Brownson wrote:
> > With a freshly charged battery this a.m., the engine would spin quickly,
> > but still no start. I got a couple backfires and then quit. I pulled
> > the plugs--#1 had a little fuel on it, the rest smelled of fuel (these
> > are new plugs), one through four had some black stuff on them, but #5
> > has none--looks almost like it isn't firing or isn't getting fuel, but
> > it smells of fuel.
> > I've confirmed that the plug wires follow the firing order around the
> > distributor.
> > I've rechecked the other connections in the engine bay and can't find
> > anything loose.
> > Next step, I guess, is recheck the timing belt timing. I'm correct,
> > aren't I, that the camshaft pulley's dot only aligns with the V mark on
> > the valve cover at TDC? Even if I'm wrong, the new belt went on with
> > the same alignment of crank and cam pulleys as the old one.
> > Can I loosen the waterpump just enough to remove the belt without losing
> > the $25 worth of Autobahn coolant I just put in?
> > Kneale Brownson wrote:
> >> Got the car buttoned up after the new timing belt ran on track (idler
> >> pulley reset straight), and I get no start.
> >> Got an almost start before the battery, which has been sitting for
> >> several weeks, started going low. Charged it up and used the charger
> >> boost to augment starter operation. Engine spun a lot faster, backfired
> >> once and no start.
> >> Camshaft and crankshaft orientation remained unchanged throughout the
> >> belt replacement procedure. Used the locker to take the bolt loose.
> >> Both cam and crank moved a degree or two when belt was untensioned, but
> >> stayed that way until I put the belt back on. Had to move the
> >> crank--and cam--slightly to get the tool back on, but ended up with the
> >> cam pulley dot aligned the same with the arrow on the valve cover as it
> >> had been when I loosened everything. My TDC "gauge" in the front
> >> cylinder lined up at the mark I've used on it to do several other TBs,
> >> and every time I spun the engine by hand, it still came up to the mark
> >> when the cam pulley dot lined up.
> >> The other things: I replaced the spark plugs with new correct plugs. I
> >> had the throttle body off to try to fix an air leak at its mating with
> >> the intake manifold I discovered earlier with a pressurized intake
> >> test. I used some carb cleaner to get the gunk off the throttle body
> >> and intake manifold before reassembling.
> >> Suggestions?
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