[ba] 20v turbo conversion?

JShadzi at aol.com JShadzi at aol.com
Tue Apr 15 14:44:29 EDT 2003

Ok Steve, I'll stop riding you so hard - I hope you understand my conversation is independent of what Johnny wants to do, I'm not too keen on specifically recommending things for certain people to do, I'll present options but its his decision.  I'm not really too concerned which way he goes, not my car, my money, etc.

I've haven't been arguing 4kq specifically, just the smaller chassis cars in general.  I don't believe the conversatin has been 4kq vs 80/90, you were throwing around examples of the UrS4 being a viable replacement, that's whay my replies were addressing.  As far as "basic transportation", if you're building a fast street or track car the fact whether it has leather or seat heaters, etc, is very incosequential to *me*, if you want to build a car that will be featured in European Car, that may be a different story.  Jeff Goggins "experience" aside, there isn't a big problem with 4kq's unibody "rattleing apart".

It all comes down to what the car's builder is going for, the fact that my car is 15 years old has never made a difference when passing chipped S4tt's at the track or the street.


>Hey, if Johnny decides that the $12K burning a hole in his pocket just has
>to go toward a 17 year old car, I say more power to him ... in fact I think
>I intimated exactly that myself in my response.  I even said that if someone
>did decide to go with 2B it did appear that the 20vT might be the proper
>choice given the price difference.  All I'm *trying* to do is to make sure
>that he's fully thought through his options, and so I don't understand why
>you keep coming back such strong negative reactions.  I know I'd be kicking
>myself if I started having problems with the rest of my car shortly after
>putting as much into just the engine as the person who bought the car new 17
>years before did for the whole car!  I know that Jeff Goggins put a lot of
>work into a 4000 when it was a lot newer car and found that stiffening the
>suspension up rattled the unibody apart ... and that was with a stock
>drivetrain.  Frankly, I think Johnny would be better off switching to the
>newer 80/90 baseline ... and I would heartily recommend that he try to find
>the best example of whatever car he chose to start with ... hmmm, someone
>else I know did exactly that.  So, Javad, why aren't you driving a 4000tq?
>I do think I get it.  Read the paragraphs of my post which you cut out of
>your reply.  I read back through the posts on this subject, and in Johnny's
>original post he was expressing some concern about whether or not it made
>sense.  When I said basic transportation, I meant things like cloth interior
>... in fact the seats aren't that good at holding you in place.  As I said
>before, I think the 4kQ is a GREAT car ... I had a blast with mine in stock
>form, and I wouldn't be surprised if another one ended up in the driveway at
>some point in the future ...
>... over and out ...
>Steve Buchholz
>San Jose, CA (USA)
>----- Original Message -----
>>... I am not arguing that a 4kQ is a fun car ... but frankly it really
>>much more than basic transportation.
>Uhh, right Steve...I don't think you get it - this sounds like a
>conversation I'd have with my 56yr old Dad...
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