[BiturboS4] OT for BT - new S4 and S4 Avant announced
Walter J Green Jr
vr6pilot at hotmail.com
Sun Dec 29 09:59:07 EST 2002
shifting = driving
auto matic = steering.
it is written.
>From: john sonty <erhti at yahoo.com>
>To: biturbos4 at audifans.com
>Subject: Re: [BiturboS4] OT for BT - new S4 and S4 Avant announced
>Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 07:38:40 -0800 (PST)
>I think with many (not all), like myself, the whole point is
>that *I* want to drive the car as 'manually' as I can.. For me,
>that'd be with a manual transmission, i.e., my 6-speed. Oh, and
>that'd also be w/syncros -- I wonder what people who drove the
>'real' manual trannys where they truly had to double-clutch had
>to say when syncros were first intro'd.. ??
>Is there any type of computer-controlled/assisted aspect to my
>6-spd manual tranny?? Hope not.. psychological, but I don't
>like the thought of that; hence, why I most likely wouldn't buy
>--- Ti Kan <ti at amb.org> wrote:
> > Matt twentyV writes:
> > > > > > I offer some facts I have read in The Roundel
> > > > (BMW's monthly pub):
> > > > > > 1. SMG II equipped cars ALWAYS outperform
> > > > 6-speeds.
> > > > > > 2. SMG II equipped cars are easier on driveline
> > > > components, thus
> > > > >creating a
> > > > > > more reliable car.
> > >
> > > Well, I remain skeptical about the longer term
> > > reliability of anything more complex than gears and
> > > synchros.
> > Well, the SMG *is* gears and synchros... it's a manual
> > transmission,
> > except that the clutch is operated by computer-controlled
> > hydraulics
> > rather than your foot.
> > At any rate, the argument that some modern race cars use
> > sequential
> > boxes and therefore it's got to be superior is sort of a moot
> > point.
> > The performance of SMG vs. a standard manual is akin to
> > splitting
> > hairs, however the driving experience differences are real. I
> > contend that SMG would ultimately be a less involving
> > alternative.
> > For rush hour stop and go traffic, perhaps SMG (or better yet,
> > Audi's multitronic CVT) is a good solution compared to a
> > traditional
> > slushbox. But for a fun drive around the twisties, there is
> > no
> > substitute for a standard manual gearbox.
> > Me? I get my pick of which car to take. :-)
> > -Ti
> > 2003 A4 1.8T multitronic
> > 2001 S4 biturbo 6-sp
> > 1984 5000S turbo
> > 1980 4000 2.0 5-sp
> > --
> > /// Ti Kan Vorsprung durch Technik
> > /// AMB Laboratories, Sunnyvale, CA. USA
> > /// ti at amb.org
> > ////// http://www.amb.org/ti/
> > ///
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