[BiturboS4] RE: Euro springs

S Stiles stiles_s at hotmail.com
Tue May 28 12:01:08 EDT 2002

Dave, you're right, I have no way of knowing whether the Bilsteins (in this
case, the Neuspeed Bilsteins) will match the Euro springs. What I do know is
that in modifying several VWs recently (Passat, A2, A3 and A4GTIs, to be
specific), I ultimately ended up with a Bilstein HD or Sport shock & stock
springs -- in all cases except for the A3gti (which had the spring rates of
a Buick).

In these cases, the Bilstein+Stock-spring setup gave me better control,
while preserving a compliant ride. I'm hoping it does the same for the S4.
My one worry is that Neuspeed has supposedly tweaked the damping rates on
their Bilsteins. I hope they didn't screw things up too badly. Yes, it's a
conservative setup, but it has worked well for my driving needs in the past.
Another thing to note is that I'll probably never track the S4. I have the
Miata/MX-5 to go beat on @ the track.

If it doesn't work, then I put the Bilsteins on my Wife's S4 and go buy
myself some H&R Coilovers :)


>From: "Edwards, Dave" <Dave_Edwards at iOra.com>
>To: "'biturbos4 at audifans.com'" <biturbos4 at audifans.com>
>Subject: [BiturboS4] RE: Euro springs
>Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 08:43:53 +0100
>If I understand what you are thinking of then I recommend against it.
>just replaced my Euro suspension (springs and shocks) with H&R coilovers I
>can tell you that the difference is fantastic. Furthermore how can you be
>sure that Audi Euro springs will match the Bilstein shocks?
>I too was worried about lowering. My H&Rs are not set to the highest
>position and I'm not really having bottoming out problems. Admittedly I
>to drive really slowly over the speed-bumps where I live, however they
>really are harsh bumps. I also bottomed out once whilst driving really fast
>down a road with a big dip, but that was just my over-enthusiasm after
>driving back from the tuner :-) I think if I had the H&Rs raised to the max
>then these problems will go away, but I have no plans to do so at the
>Even if you don't like the H&Rs I'm sure that there are plenty of other
>brands which are also a lot better than the Euro suspension.
>And don't say that US roads are worse than UK roads as I've driven on both
>and ours are much the same.
>Still, if you go ahead then it'll prove interesting: If you think that the
>Euro springs are better then it'll prove how really bad the US ones are!
>(chip, Forge DVs, shortshifter, Miltek, H&R coilovers, Porsche front
>Message: 1
>From: "S Stiles" <stiles_s at hotmail.com>
>To: BiturboS4 at audifans.com
>Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 09:37:57 -0700
>Subject: [BiturboS4] Euro springs
>There's been a lot of talk lately about the Euro S4s being lower & a bit
>stiffer. Well, this sounds like a good thing to me, so I'm working w/Josh
>Decker (local here in Redmond, WA) to get a set imported for my Avant -- to
>go w/the Bilsteins I have sitting on the bench in the garage. I'm looking
>lower the car slightly, and stiffen it up enough so I don't bottom-out, and
>the Euro springs sound like the closest thing I've found so far.
>I've seen a bunch of Euro S4 pics, and frankly I can't tell whether they're
>really lower or not. For instance, the Tiff Needle RS4 video has a pic of
>S4 Avant, and it easily looks as jacked-up as mine.
>But, at least now we'll know for sure. I'll report back w/some data when
>things come together.
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