[BiturboS4] BLOWN Turbos - Can I Assume That Audi Is Providing Me With Updated S4 Turbos ?
sherowsky at adelphia.net
Sat Apr 19 09:26:22 EDT 2003
I e-mailed you a couple of times, but didn't get a response so I don't know
if you didn't get the e-mails or just weren't interested.
Anyway, my 2002 S4 is at AWE now undergoing major surgery. You can have the
K03's from my car for $200 (for both) if you want. The car had less than
1300 miles on it when they were removed. I really don't want to have to
cart them back to Virginia. I will be at AWE Tuesday afternoon. If you are
interested, you can pick up them up at AWE then have them inspected anywhere
you like. AWE has said they do not want to be involved in any third party
parts sale (understandable) so I do not know if they would verify their
condition or not. That would be between you and them or any other place you
had them checked out.
If anyone else in the Philadelphia area is interested, let me know. I would
let other very lightly used stock parts go very cheaply as well; such as
clutch, flywheel, intercoolers, etc.
----- Original Message -----
From: "j y" <jimnetpa at yahoo.com>
To: <adamschwartz at rcn.com>; <biturbos4 at audifans.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2003 2:23 AM
Subject: Re: [BiturboS4] BLOWN Turbos - Can I Assume That Audi Is Providing
Me With Updated S4 Turbos ?
> Again - I will not consider paying $2700 unless it's
> the updated turbos and plumbing.
> Yes, everyone is correct - Audi is sticking it to me
> RETAIL - would u expect less from a car manufacturer.
> How YBH Audi broke it down to me - the turbos retail
> for $1800 each - 21 hours labor = $1500 - taxes +
> fluids/misc parts = $300 - roughly speaking the total
> = $5400.
> As I mentioned in a previous post, I purchased a turbo
> for my Porsche on ebay and it cost me $700
> re-conditioned and retails for $1500.
> So, $1800 for the Audi K03s - may not be that out of
> Also, I received quotes from local independent Porsche
> shops to install the re-conditioned turbo, and the
> going labor rate was $75 (that included AWE - since
> they are local to me).
> Since I am paying HALF the LABOR on the S4 repair - my
> effective labor rate is $35.71 for 21 hours.
> The estimated time to install the re-conditioned turbo
> that i bought on ebay was 10 hrs (I even confirmed
> this with the turbo's vendor - KoKeln - they vouched
> for the install time).
> Again, taking this into consideration - 21 hrs for TWO
> turbos is not totally unreasonable.
> $300 for taxes/misc is not excessive either - because
> sales tax is 6% in PA ($5100 * 0.06 = $306).
> So, in my opinion, the price quote that received from
> Audi is not really "WHACK", as my 19 yr college
> freshman son would say.
> I'm open to suggestions/counter points.
> --- adamschwartz at rcn.com wrote:
> > No problem.. I dont think I said my piece too well.
> > Dont
> > think I was too clear.
> > But you know.. the price I saw of $4700ish on AWE's
> > site was
> > complete.. Actually it may not have included
> > install, but
> > definitely included software etc..
> > What gets me about this whole thing is: Its nice
> > that Audi is
> > going to pay half. Very cool.. But $2700!!! Thats
> > half? Thats
> > what it should cost. Exactly.. go to a good
> > independant shop
> > and I bet you might even get it done for less, with
> > them
> > finding the parts for you.
> > Still interested to know what the deal with the
> > aftermarket
> > warranty is. I have a warranty from
> > warrantybynet.com, and in
> > theory my turbo's are covered. They are supposed to
> > be...
> > -Adam
> > >
> > >Oh, I gotcha. Sorry.
> > >
> > >It's cool idea if you have to spend the money
> > anyhow, but
> > most likely he'll:
> > >
> > >1. Need other stuff to make it work (ECU sw, fuel
> > rail. etc)
> > and wind up
> > >spending WAY more
> > >
> > >2. No warranty on K04s....whereas Audi will give
> > him
> > warranty of some sort
> > >on the new turbos they put in, even if the rest of
> > the car
> > is out of
> > >warranty.
> > >
> > >You can buy a pair of used K03's on ebay or the
> > boards for
> > around $600 for
> > >both, then plus labor at good independent shop,
> > that's
> > probably
> > >$1200......way less than what Audi is quoting even
> > after the
> > 50% discount
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