[Biturbos4] Extended Warranty Buy

Al Adler adlere at sourcecodecorp.com
Sun Jan 11 19:21:52 EST 2004

    All in all I wish you had been the tech who worked on my car at 48 k 
at its last warranty visit. Your dealership would have been able to bill 
AOA for 2 tie rods, 2 front upper control arms, a leaky driver side cam 
sensor, an medium sized oil leak below the passenger cam sprocket from 
something (just the valve cover gasket or more serious??? ), a leaky 
trans tail piece, and a malfunctioning tip switch -I'm guessing that 
would push around $2500 or so. Damn AOA - they definitely saved a some 
serious warranty $$$ on my car. So far I've done about half of it and 
that car is not easy to work on without a garage full of special tools 
and lots of time. Thanks for the heads up on the turbo - so far the car 
doesn't seem to burning any oil but I've only put a couple of thousand 
on it so far so I don't have much of a baseline. I just gave it an oil 
change yesterday w/ 0w-40 synthetic and a factory filter yesterday - the 
acura dealer I bought it from filled it with 10w-30 and some strange 
filter brand I'd never seen before. I suspect the Audi dealer here 
didn't use synthetic either in the past but I will be going forward.

Thanks for the advice,

Keman wrote:

>>>enough to complain about them. I talked to a service rep at the
>>>dealer he used to find out about the service history and the guy
>>>said "we only fix the things the customer complains about - we're
>>>too busy to do all the work needed anyway". My experience with that
>This is a real sore spot of mine. According to Audi, if a tech receives a
>car that's brought in for a headlight repair.. and files a warranty claim
>for a valve cover gasket leak, he has broken the rules and the claim will be
>denied- the dealership will not get paid for the work. This is called
>"warranty solicitation". It's Audi's attempt at controlling warranty costs
>and making it such that their techs "don't get rich off their warranty." ...
>my opinion is that if they don't want their techs getting rich off their
>warranty, build the fscking cars right.
>Luckily, the first 50k of maintanence is free and during this period I use
>the fact that I am supposed to inspect the entire car for any possible
>problem during maintanance and _every_ problem I find, is fixed. If we or
>the customer doesn't have the time to fix it, I reschedule some or all of
>the repairs to be done at a later time. If the problem is hazardous, I put
>the customer in a rental. My goal is to hand the car back as it rolled off
>the assembly line. No leaks. No quirks. No problems.
>Amazingly enough... this is the mentality at my dealership, and compared to
>other dealers in the state our warranty repair costs are one of the lowest.
>Go figure.
>>>    myself. Since this S4 needs a lot of work its keeping me quite
>>>busy. A side question - when I was doing my DV's and TBB I noticed
>>>some (
>>>not much)oil in the driver side turbo passages, while the passenger
>>>side was fairly dry. No whining yet, but I should I be budgeting for
>>>new turbos or is that oil from crankcase venting?
>It's pretty common... mine does this as well and has since the first time I
>replaced a DV at like 18k miles. (I noticed it then). I'm fairly certain
>it's a very small amount of oil leaking past the turbo. My car does not burn
>any oil so what you see is what you're losing.. a few drops in a fine mist.
>I seem to see this on the drivers side frequently. While there is a
>crankcase vent on the drivers side of the intake plenum (that big Y thing on
>top), that's the fresh air draw IN to the crankcase ... not the other way
>around. There is a second crankcase vent that's attached to the lower intake
>which actually draws crankcase gasses in.
>I honestly wouldn't worry about it. When I had my downpipes off I checked
>the play on the turbos at like 76k miles and there was none, they felt like
>new. Between that and the lack of oil loss, I'd say the turbos are holding
>up very well. I run synthetic, change oil every 3500-4500 miles, and always
>let the oil temps lift off the peg before getting into boost. I also let
>things cool down before shutting the engine off.
>- Keman

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