[Biturbos4] New to the list

Bob Tillman list at p-vector.com
Mon Mar 22 11:16:56 EST 2004

Hi Mike -

To each his own, as they say. ;)  Two disclaimers off the bat: (1) I've
never driven a Tip-equipped 2.7t, and (2) I grant that the VW/Audi 2.8 is
about 60HP down on the 2.7tt

Having said that in our old Passat 4-motion, the tiptronic was a true
slushbox.  For an automatic, it wasn't bad, but even in manual mode its
response time was lacking and you could just feel the power being sapped
from the motor.  0-60 times for the Passat is in the 9 second range, for
heaven's sake!  Comparing the Tip Fwd Passat to the 5-speed Fwd Passat, 0-60
times are a full second better for the stick than for the slushbox.  It
seems unlikely to me that the Tip on the 2.7t is less inefficient.  I also
recall auto mags complaining on the Tip in the 2.7t allroad when it came
out, saying that if you were cruising and wanted to hit the gas, you had the
double delay of turbo spool-up and the Tip deciding if it should downshift
or not.  Their feeling was that the 2.7t was better mated to a manual

That's my two cents!  Maybe if I drove a Tip S4 I'd feel differently too. ;)

- Bob T.
  '01 S4 Avant 6-speed (his)
  '02 allroad 6-speed (hers)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Kuriger" <michael at isuzu-mods.com>
To: "Igor Kessel" <kbattpo at verizon.net>
Cc: <biturbos4 at audifans.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Biturbos4] New to the list

> I prefer a stick shift too most of the time, until I drove My S4 TIP.
> the turbos never have any noticable lag, it jumps off the line at full
> boost and is hard to beat.  the turbos dont spool down during shifts
> either :-)
> Mike

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