[Biturbos4] Unholy smoke

Keman keman at interwolf.net
Fri Aug 5 13:49:58 EDT 2005

Well, no matter what the nice part is you have them fixing -a- symptom
under warranty.

If 10,000 miles from now your warranty is gone, and the symptom persists,
it'll still get fixed for free.

I'm actually wondering if it's a valve guide seal in the cylinder head. Do
you think you could convince them to yank the spark plugs?

Come to think of it... take the free turbos. Smile and nod. Follow up with
them after you get the turbos. It'd suck right now to get bit by Murphy as
you make them triplecheck their diagnosis, have them say "Oh HERE is the
problem" and then have your turbos die 6 months from now after your
warranty is gone. Know what I mean?

- Keman

On Fri, 5 Aug 2005, Chris Newbold wrote:

> On Thu, August 4, 2005 6:32 pm, Keman said:
> > I'd love to know what technique they used to figure out that it was the
> > turbos tho. :P
> I went down there today to talk face-to-face with the tech and see exactly
> what he found and did to reach this conclusion. Seemed like a nice guy and
> willing to chat.
> The bottom line, though, is that this is a seat-of-the-pants diagnosis. He
> took apart the lower intake system-- from the turbos to the intercoolers--
> but didn't find much oil. Other than that, he said that the smoking at
> startup is, in their experience, the very first sign of turbos in decline.
> I've run Amsoil in the motor since the 1000-mile mark, and have always
> waited until it was warmed up before getting on the boost and have cooled
> it down so that the oil temp was under 225 before shut-down. That said, I
> have driven the car very hard, but not abusively so. I explained this to
> the tech, and his comment was that Amsoil was very good, but the 0W-30
> weight might be a bit too thin. I didn't bother arguing that is the
> recommended weight according to the owner's manual...
> On the one hand, this didn't really satisfy me. On the other, they must
> have to justify this to Audi with enough evidence of failure to get paid.
> So, I held my togue and resisted calling "bullsh*t!" on them.
> I suppose new turbos at 55k for free is worth something, even if there was
> still life in the original ones...
> -Chris
> 2001.5 S4 Avant 6spd

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