[Biturbos4] RE: Andy Turner

Igor Kessel KBATPO at comcast.net
Tue Feb 22 19:41:16 EST 2005

Richard Ness wrote:
> On the contrary (Uwe Ross).
> He has always been helpful and goes out of his way to provide not
> only a great product (VERY reasonably priced), but a very high level
> of customer support as well. 
> In your past "dealings with him" (Uwe Ross) on
> <mailto:VAG-COM at yahoogroups.com> VAG-COM at yahoogroups.com,
> you were being a bit obtuse you got called on it. It was, IMHO, well
> deserved.
> The only messages that may have gotten 'moderated' were when it got heated 
> and they were probably not only off-topic, but I'd bet they contained
> language 
> deemed inappropriate. All of the main discussion's messages are still there,
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/VAG-COM/messagesearch?query=turner
> for all to read. Uwe did NOT moderate you in the way you infer below.
> Low blow!!
> As many of us on  <mailto:VAG-COM at yahoogroups.com> VAG-COM at yahoogroups.com
> told you before, when you
> ranted about the price and the ant-piracy etc, was that Uwe's products are a
> and would still be so at double the price. Quit whining already. You were
> wrong then
> and you are wrong again now.
> Yet you continue to back-stab Uwe, months later.
>  <http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/VAG-COM/messagesearch?query=turner>  
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 12:02:36 +0000
> From: Andy Turner andy at palomar.demon.co.uk
> Subject: Re: [Biturbos4] VAG-COM
> To: biturbos4 at www.audifans.com
> Message-ID: d2c611tdbga0b7r9h1sckcioh8p1vn7pqq at 4ax.com
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> I've found Uwe Ross to be rather awkward and cantankerous in my
> dealings with him. His USB cable costs a fortune yet contains a dongle
> which provides the user with no functionality but which is only of
> interest to *him* since it helps to reduce piracy. Yet it is the
> honest users who find themselves paying *him* (and he *does* make a
> profit on these cables), for the dongle that only he really wants. If
> you try to discuss topics such as these on the VAG-COM mailing list,
> you quickly find out that he's the moderator of the group as your
> posts start to go missing.
> Anyhow, with that off my chest, to answer the question, USB-serial
> converters tend not to work, but PCMCIA-serial cards *tend to* work.
> I've got a "Socket", one, very much like this:
> < <http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6742328814>
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6742328814>
> which works fine for me. I obviously can't guarantee that it'll work
> for you though.
> andyt
> Andy,

I am with Richard all the way. I happen to know Uwe personally since I 
live nearby. He is a great guy and is always willing to stretch a 
helping hand to a fellow German car enthusiast. He's also honest to a 
fault. I would like to remind all newbees out there that before he came 
out with his great affordable product our only option was a mediocre 
$800 diagnostic package, written in VB3. Short of a $5,000 VAG1551 that is.

Igor Kessel
two turbo quattros

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