[Es2] swaybars

Tom Saltino saltinot at earthlink.net
Fri Aug 13 15:14:19 EDT 2004

Although I have never done it on any of my Audis, I don't run a front
sway bar on my 84 GTI track car either.  The car has koni yellows/H&R
race springs and a 28mm rear.  It is a joy to drive.  I can chose
whether to oversteer or understeer with the throttle.

About one month ago I replaced the entire rear suspension on the 85 4kq
with 1991 90q 20v parts.  Subframe, two piece struts, axles, and the
skinny 15mm?? sway bar were all swapped.  I took the car to Mid-Ohio in
June for the ACCNA event and it was a hoot to drive.  I was amazed at
how easy it was to move the back end around the keyhole and through
madness.  I'm considering trying the 22mm 4k front drive bar, but I
almost think it might be a bit too much.  Of course the coupe is a much
heavier car so maybe you need something bigger in back to control body

BTW, Eric Renneisen is a close personal friend of mine, but he had
absolutely no influence on my GTI!  :-)  One note on Eric's coupe....he
runs some extremely high rate spring coil-overs so I don't think the
sway bars were doing much anyway.


-----Original Message-----
From: es2-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:es2-bounces at audifans.com] On
Behalf Of Brandon Hull
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 2:19 PM
To: Elijahallen92 at aol.com; es2 at audifans.com
Subject: RE: [Es2] swaybars

Eric Renneissen, one of the old school CQ guys, ran his CQ at the track
with no front ARB.   I thought that was a pretty tempting experiment
since our cars plough like pigs.  (Sorry no other way to sugar coat that
but it does come from a guy who switched to 911s) I didn't know there
was an adjustable ARB for the rear off the shelf but that would seem a
very tempting option.  Otherwise the back pages of Grassroots
Motorsports feature a half dozen adjustable ARBs which require likely no
more than welding on some mounts.  
Rick Houck has thought much more about setup for the track than I have,
but again I'd think that a soft front and a stiff rear would be the

> Ok, I've been trying to figure out what to do for swaybars.
> RS2 front looks 
> good, does it fit right? From what I read anything over 19mm 
> in the rear can be 
> a problem. What are my options? Anyone using one from 
> Whiteline? Is there 
> someone that can make a custom rear SB for a good price? 
>  Update on my project: just sent crate of parts- DSY tranny, 
> 5 lug front hubs 
> from S4, K27 hybrid with RS2 ceramic coated manifold, RS2 
> injectors, MAF, 
> 993tt Big Blacks, Porsche 323mm cast drilled rotors with 
> custom aluminum hats, S2 
> steering wheel, and a few other parts. I hope to have the car 
> up and running 
> by mid September. I am choosing to take the AC out of the car 
> even though they 
> had it working fine with the AAN in. I guess the weight is 
> more important to 
> me+ I live in Michigan.
> Elijah
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