[Es2] Sport Quattro problem

c cohen ccohen5 at compuserve.com
Mon Dec 6 19:46:09 EST 2004

No codes possible, these cars were never produced with that capability.

I need to check the cap but that would not be the sort of problem that is so
intermittent whereas your pump relay question is just such a thing that
could overheat especially if the battery is dying (slowly).  There is no
indication of this,  Its is kept on a trickle charge and the engine starts
first time every time from cold, and runs very well.  This problem only
happens when the engine has been run for some time, in hot and cold weather,
with or without electrical load.

Your point about the smell of gas has me worried too.  Because it does seem
to knock out the fuel starvation theory of a pump or relay problem.

Probably the first thing to do without testing each part is to replace the
plugs and plug wires.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ben Klumper" <bklumper at mdbworld.com>
To: "c cohen" <ccohen5 at compuserve.com>; "es2" <es2 at audifans.com>
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Es2] Sport Quattro problem

I'm assuming then you've checekd the other obvious things like coil output,
sparkplug wires, distributor cap and rotor, ISV, fuel pump relay. It sounds
like lack of spark to one or more cylinders rather than fuel supply sinch
you smell unburned fuel. Any chance of getting a spare ECU to hook up? Does
the car have the ability to output engine fault codes?


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "c cohen" <ccohen5 at compuserve.com>
To: "Ben Klumper" <bklumper at mdbworld.com>; "es2" <es2 at audifans.com>
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Es2] Sport Quattro problem

> Last year.  I imported one from Kim Collins in the UK.  He uses it on some
> of the cat equipped RR engines over there.  No problems after the fitting
> in
> March of 2003 until misfire started in February 2004.
> Colin
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ben Klumper" <bklumper at mdbworld.com>
> To: "c cohen" <ccohen5 at compuserve.com>; "es2" <es2 at audifans.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 3:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [Es2] Sport Quattro problem
> Colin,
> When was the last time the O2 sensor was replaced?
> Ben
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "c cohen" <ccohen5 at compuserve.com>
> To: "es2" <es2 at audifans.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 1:29 PM
> Subject: [Es2] Sport Quattro problem
> You guys have been kind enough to help shed some light on the mysteries of
> the KW engine in the light of your terrific AAN et al performers.  I
> wonder
> if you would take a look at this problem and tell me what you think.
> Starting in the Spring, it would occasionally run rough - as if it was
> only
> running on 3 cylinders, but this was not the case.  More like cutting out
> momentarily - would not accelerate but could maintain speed with very
> light
> throttle.  You feel like going to WOT but you know it will probably die
> before you get there.  Then just as suddenly as the symptoms started, it
> cleared up and ran normally.  This happened in daylight (no lights) dry
> but
> around 28C with the A/C running.  I switched off the A/C but that did not
> help.  the shop I work with in TX thought it was the diverter valve and
> replaced it with one for a TT. the problem did not return but the car was
> not driven as regularly after June.
> In September, after a 300 mile run, 4 track runs and 275 miles home, all
> flawless, the problem started again.  This time it got so bad that when I
> stopped for a light, it stalled and would not start. There was spark
> (checked) but a seemingly no fuel was getting through.  The A/C was on but
> I
> had switched it off well before it stalled.  I had just refilled and
> thought
> it might be bad gas.  I got a tow to the other side of the intersection
> and
> started calling for another tow.  After 15 minutes of phone calls, I
> turned
> the key, yet again, and its started, ran smoothly as if nothing had
> happened
> and home I went.  Warm dry day, 27-30 deg. C.
> Later in the same month it happened again but this time it did not stall
> and
> cleared itself up after some nursing.  I then put in a bottle of the
> Chevron
> injector cleaner.
> Two weeks ago, I drove a round trip in driving rain with and without A/C,
> 20-25 deg C.  No problems.
> On Friday I drove it to work (30 miles round trip) and  as I pulled into
> my
> garage that evening, it started running rough again.  Tried to keep it
> going, played with all the electrics - but nothing made a difference.  It
> was hunting, revving to 2000 then dropping to near stall, then back to
> 2000
> until it finally stalled.  Cold dry day around 14 deg C.  Once it stalled
> I
> could not restart but smelled unburned fuel.  The next morning the car
> started as normal - ran smooth.
> I am guessing it might be something to do with the fuel pump but it is not
> noisy; or filters, which were changed last year.  There is no workshop
> manual for this car but I do have the calibration numbers for the various
> sensors but do not know where to start.
> One suggestion has been the fuel return or the accumulators?
> Anyway any ideas would be appreciated.
> Colin
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